I would be proud to have a femboy son
Gold.
It’s all fun and games until he bangs the wife of someone who graduated top class of Navy Seals and has been involved in numerous secret raids against Al-Qaeda, with over 300 confirmed kills, is trained in gorilla warfare and is the best sniper of the army
edit: I see the downvoters don’t know about this classic 🤣
Listen here you little shit!
gorilla warfare
This is the America Harambe wanted for us
It’s all fun and games then, too.
The hero we deserve…
There’s a version that has a bit more.
I don’t call myself a man, but your wife still calls me to fuck
Legendary 🫡
That hotmeat89 guy seems it has script for years. At this point I respect the commitment goddamn!
I wonder if this is still going…
I don’t think it is. I looked it up and couldn’t find anything further in the thread from them. Their account has been deactivated, so (I think) the original is gone and we just have reblogs. Wayback Machine doesn’t have it either.
Shout out to all the Nat Guard and Marines currently ‘defending our freedom’ in LA!
… and of course their famously faithful wives they married 3 months before their first deployment!
More interestingly, it’s also pretty common for girls who wanna leave their man to push him into service so she doesn’t have to deal with him after. In boot we had a wall of dear John’s 2 weeks in
Yup yup yup.
On one level, I genuinely empathize with guys going through that… probably totally emotionally and mentally devastating for the vast majority of them.
On the other hand… its so common, and usually so many people in their lives will tell them that… that is probably gonna happen to them, and they don’t listen.
Shit sucks man, I’ve never been in any military service, but I’ve known guys its happened to.
Oh and then you’ve got this: Hrm, could this phenomenon maybe play a role in female service members getting SA’d and raped?
You know, just maybe?
wait … I wanna make sure you’re not blaming woman for other women being raped.
Right?
I would hope that it goes without saying that if a man rapes a woman, … he is responsible for choosing to commit that horrific act, and he should be held accountable…
But apparently this does not go without saying, given the number of comments I’ve recieved who are reading this as me blaming rape onnother women via I guess some kind of transitive property of guilt or blame.
At least you actually posed your comment as a question.
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I am saying that hurt people hurt people, that people who have been hurt, or traumatized, tend to be more likely to lash out at others, or develop some kind of more permanent maladjusted world view / behavioral patterns / moral framework.
I am also not saying that people who have had bad things happen to them… that does not give anyone some kind of free pass to then do bad things to other people.
People have agency, they are responsible for their decisions and actions.
Their prior trauma does not absolve them from that responsibility, but it may at least partially explain their behavior.
There is a difference between a potential part of a complex explanation … and an excuse.
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In my comments leading up to your response, I have not simplistically assigned specific blame values to each particular person involved in each specific situation that falls into this general category of situations.
I have simply described percieved phenomena.
There is a difference between looking at how systemic problems and patterns emerge… and making a moral judgement on every person and action in that complex web of interactions.
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It is a widely accepted concept within the field of psychology that certain, often fairly easily identifiable risk factors, can identify people likely to develop, or be part of diagnosing someone as currently having some kind of mental disorder… as well as who may be more likely to behave or act out in certain ways in the future.
If anything, I am suggesting that perhaps young enlisted men who have recently been broken up with should receive some kind of regular psych screening, counselling, therarpy, something like that.
It is a pretty widespread phenomena that when someone feels unfulfilled in a relationship, or betrayed by a partner, they will lash out by cheating, having an affair… pursuing some kind of sexual interaction with someone else.
Note about CNM
(for the above paragraph, i want to carve out or caveat that this is leaving aside consistent, consensual polyamorous / ethical nonmonogamous relationships, which certainly do exist, but constitute a small minority of American sexual relationships within the population as a whole… best I can tell, at any given point in time, only about 5% of Americans are actually, currently involved in a CNM relationship… more people express interest in potentially having such an arrangement, or have been in such an arrangement at one point in their lives… but the point I am trying to make is that the vast majority of people act within the traditional personal and social framework of monogamy, the vast majority of the time.)
In a situation of confinement, where people cannot leave a fairly small and defined area, like a military base… and these people are also just generally in a high stress environment…
Well, that confined environment means the women in it are going to be the ones that are the most likely victims of any such unstable men, especially if they outrank them.
Again… I would assign the moral blame, the legal blame, the personal ‘you should have control of yourself and are responsible for your actions’ blame to the men that actually perpetrate the act…
But at the same time, if my theory here holds water, then you could potentially reduce SA against female service members by keeping better track of male service members with regular pysch check-ins and therapy… also perhaps, and I am completely serious: just give all the guys fleshlights or onaholes or something.
I am interested in potential harm reduction at a large scale, not moralizing.
I guess I should also note I did posit this whole idea as a theory, a theory I believe is likely valid to some extent, but nonetheless should actually be, you know, tested, verified, by maybe compiling case files on SA in the military and seeing how many of the men had been having relationship problems with their partner prior to their SA, checking that against how many men had been having relationship problems and did not SA anyone, etc.
Rape does not happen because of sexual frustration. This long ass comment shows absolutely no understanding of the dynamics or causes of sexual abuse.
You wrote something shitty and are writing a novel to justify your terrible and malformed opinion.
Your homework tonight is to pick up Andrea Dworkin’s Intercourse or Susan Brownmiller’s Against Our Will, and to shut the fuck up about sexual assault. This is not a topic you are educated enough to speak on.
Rape does not happen because of sexual frustration.
That is an insane, absolutely bullshit statement to make, that definitively and absolutely.
Many, many criminologists, sociologists, psychologists, who look into the causes of rape, who interview or otherwise assess male rapists… they come away with a theory that there are multiple factors that go into what makes a male more or less likely to commit rape… and the level of sexual frustration (ie the idea that they need/deserve more sex than they are able to have) of the male is a major factor in nearly all of them.
The attitude that Dworkin describes of men engaging in sex with women in a power imbalanced scenario… that actually meshes with the concept of sexual frustration as a causal factor of rape, and post-rape justifications, it does conflict with it or negate it.
The extreme levels of sexual frustration experienced/reported by some men are arguably only even possible in the world with the normalized attitudes Dworkin describes, where sex is framed as and excersized as a game of unbalanced power dynamics, or a method of enforcing them.
Here is Dworkin herself:
The woman appears to control sex. The man needs it. This causes his rage at her perceived power over him.
Men who believe they are owed sex, who believe they are entitled to it, and that they are justified to pursue it without consent… that mindset literally is extreme sexual frustration.
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Here’s a good review of several different causal model theories of rape/sexual violencd:
You can measure the number of men who strongly feel that entitlement, that rage, that idea that they are correct when they take it forcibly… and many have done this and published studies on it.
Here are some that specifically delve into sexual frustration as a major factor, with many citations within them of similar, prior papers.
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4491036/
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0047235221000854
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A whole, whole lot of extreme and violent behavior, done by men, is seen by the scientific community to have sexual frustration, unfufilled sexual desires, as a major element of a patchwork of causal factors… not just rape.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/abs/10.1177/10887679221106975
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Even just generally speaking, you can see that a common, broadly accepted symptom of being sexually frustrated is:
performing riskier behaviors to fulfill sexual desires
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/sexually-frustrated#symptoms
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I do not know why, or even how, you can read Dworkin and somehow come away with the idea that sexual frustration has nothing to do with rape.
I really just do not understand.
As for Brownmiller… yes, I generally agree that as a societal phenomenon or ‘institution’, male rape of women does constantly intimidate women, and that patriarchal societies tend to have double standards when it comes to legally convicting men of, and protecting women from rape.
It was very historically impactful in getting the ball rolling on making rape conviction standards less ludicrous…
…but, looking back from 50 years later, the claims of hers that extend from her ‘observation’ that rape does not occur amongst animals… this is now known to be false; many, many animals have been observed engaging in rape… though I guess you could credit Brownstone with getting the ball rolling on more biologists looking into that as well.
Not OP, but pretty sure science is moving away from all rape and sexual assault being about power and that a good chunk of it is related to sexual frustration.
Sexual assaults go down when porn is available:
Victimization rates for rape in the United States demonstrate an inverse relationship between pornography consumption and rape rates. Data from other nations have suggested similar relationships. Although these data cannot be used to determine that pornography has a cathartic effect on rape behavior, combined with the weak evidence in support of negative causal hypotheses from the scientific literature, it is concluded that it is time to discard the hypothesis that pornography contributes to increased sexual assault behavior.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359178909000445
So, there have to be things we can do at a societal level to reduce the sexual frustration of young men. I don’t know what.
Rather incredible of andros to arrogantly assign me homework I’ve already read a decade ago… which are books from ~40 to ~50ish years ago…
Whilst seemingly being totally oblivious of the last 10, 20 years of actual peer reviewed scientific inquiry into this.
Oh and then you’ve got this: Hrm, could this phenomenon maybe play a role in female service members getting SA’d and raped?
What the fuck
see my reply to prettybunnys
Nah, it’s just the macho dudebro attitude that pervades a lot of the military with a side helping of good old boys club, not jilted husbands.
The macho asshole dudebro culture is certainly the main and biggest part of the problem.
I am just saying that maybe the jilted lover thing is also another part of the problem.
Whilst I knew them empathizing was what came naturally but thinking back on some of those cases, those dudes were not the greatest folks. Like of course they were basically kids being like 19 on average but I’d bet money some of those girls were doing it cuz these dudes were aggro
I mean generally yeah, asshole aggro dudebros is anecdotally most of what I’ve seen as well.
But, I have seen it happen to a few genuinely good natured and well intentioned, but just colossally naive and/or astoundingly brainwashed/gaslit guys as well.
Holy shit, that’s some next level victim blaming. Ewww
see my reply to prettybunnys
Someone’s gotta drive the Dodge Hellcat before it gets repo’d…
Its always a fucking Hellcat lol.
I mean, not literally always… but … there are so many car dealerships right outside of so many bases… gotta spend that signing bonus on something, apparently, and that something is almost always a Hellcat.
It makes perfect sense. They prey on poor people to fill out that “voluntary” recruitment. When you’ve been poor all your life and suddenly you get that signing bonus no matter how responsible you are there’s no way you’re not going to buy something at least a little fun for yourself. You’ve likely had a shitty car all your life if you had one at all. You put all that together and it’s really easy to see why so many of them do it.
Yep, you got it.
I always find it funny when people think these stereotypical behaviors of young military dudes are… just rude stereotypes.
Some of them, sure, but a lot of them, nope, generally actually true, sorry buddies, capitalism figured out another way to exploit your poverty and lack of education, with mathematical precision, and you fell for it, again.
Uncle Sam fucking you at every corner straight into the ass.
Just like hotmeat89 does to their wives
I’m in Hawai’i and I basically assume all Hellcats and Corvettes are military. So when they cut me off in traffic or whatever, instead of getting angry I just say a little “easy there recruit” or “settle down Private” to myself. It makes me chuckle and keeps me from sin.
I hope this guy or someone like him visits all those National Guard’s wives. This deployment will involve orders that should not be followed. We need the constitution amended so the national guard cannot be deployed into a state without that states governors permission.
Well, that is a double edge sword right there. Maybe we end up with a sane federal government
againfor once, and let’s say some freeloading red state decides to go full 1921 Tulsa on whatever the scapegoat of the week is and the national guard really does need to go in, but their nazi governor just says no and that’s that? There simply needs to be some workaround.Yeah, the courts or congress ordering it. That’s how the schools got integrated
Damn. I forgot about the governor fighting integration. The complexity just moved beyond my narrow understanding of politics.
That’s always the crux here in the fight between states and federal rights. Some states will fight the federal government for things you believe in and some against things you believe in. When we demand exercises of power or set in stone rights we need to be prepared for it to be used in situations we don’t agree with.
That’s really one of the difficulties of politics in general. Anyone can say “we should have all these rights” and not consider the implications or they can say “law enforcement and the executive should be able to do all this without interference so they can stop the bad guys” without realizing that the interference is protecting them too.
What we’re seeing in fascism is one of the bypasses of all of it. “We will enforce the rules arbitrarily so you can feel safe both from us and from the ‘bad guys’ who we’ll stop.” But in addition to having actually no protection and the rampant evil of it all, it also bears the cost of arbitrary rules are impossible to be sure you’re following.
Yeah, President can totally send National Guard but he has to have governor or congressional approval.
Also, fuck Wallace, may he rest in piss.
Brings another layer of meaning to ‘Fascist Cuck.’
with 3 confirmed kills
Yeah, 2 of them where kids and one was a pregnant woman he thought was carrying a bomb.
Yeah, 2 of them where kids and one was a pregnant woman he thought was carrying a bomb.
Wouldn’t that be four confirmed kills by Republican standards?
I think, for Republicans, those standards only apply to white people.
No, they apply to everyone except white republicans. Their abortions are obviously justified and ordained by God (or something).
See, white right-wingers are the “in group” to to the white right wingers (the predominant people & people in power of the American republicans).
Everyone else is sent by the devil, or taking jobs, or freeloading on benefits. So anything they do is wrong
Just 3.
Women aren’t people, remember?
I feel strongly one of the more probable solutions to the fermi paradox is simply that we have a sizeable number of people in our species who still take pride and joy in the idea of taking lives, under any context.
No, we’re not allowed out there. No, we can’t have good things.
Raise your kids better you asshats.
IDK, earth nature is pretty gruesome (and it’s not just mammals or even just vertebraes). Doesn’t seem super probable that such a big precentage of space-faring alien species are so peaceful that they’d think that this is too far.
The point is, if there are advanced species out there that can actively observe us, that means they are likely millions of years ahead of us, and our animalistic ways are barely a step above monkeys throwing rocks at each other and our disregard for life proves it. It would be like humans inviting a particularly successful colony of ants into the United Nations.
It’s a funny thought experiment, but I don’t think there’s anything in space watching us either way.
Your 18 year olds are just children. Theirs are fighting age males.
Bonus points I guess
I just got up and this is probably the funniest thing I’ll see all day.
“If a war comes to your country” the president will order you to form up against your fellow countrymen.
I’ve lived in a region where ethical non-monogamy is so normalized that I look at the photo and think “ok…?”
Utah?
Oh it ain’t ethical there. Well, except in SLC
Yeah but then you have to be in SLC, which I will say in all seriousness needs to be removed from existence. Like with artillery and napalm, fuck SLC.
They’re poisoning themselves out of existence. Well… I take that back. Their offspring are all turning into those mutants from The Oblongs.
It does take two to tango, though…
idk if its the app im using (interstellar) but that’s beyond blurry for me.
With sync for lemmy, I got to go into the post first and click the image there to get the resolution. As if clicking the image directly just opens a preview.
Huh, neat thanks. I’ve had this happen a few times and apparently never tried that. Much easier to read now lol!
Quality is good on Voyager
It’s perfectly fine for me (mbin) so I guess it must be the app.
Its like that for me on Thunder as well… I think there may be some kind of setting irt to … how it caches/renders thumbnails from posts, but yeah, all these giant, extremely vertical image caps, usually from tumblr, just are not handled well on mobile apps.
The images are stupid huge in size, so most apps attempt to scale the preview resolution… and then that looks like ass because they are very very vertical, instead of something closer to 16:9.
It’ll go to the real image when you click on it, but then zooming and scrolling through it is also a bit fucky wucky, because the dimensions are so out of wack.
Apps don’t usually render Lemmy content universally well. In such cases you might use the browser page as a fall-back?
e.g. PieFed renders this to perfection for me on Android Firefox at https://piefed.social/post/889181 . The original Lemmy version at https://lemmy.world/pictrs/image/ce7d4419-038a-4d75-824e-d48aae69c122.png is janky but quite serviceable.
Looks fine for me on interstellar.
I think it’s the source itself, Boost let’s me zoom in but the quality doesn’t improve.
You have to click the hd button to download full quality version, top right
Am I supposed to think the guy is funny, clever, or not a complete douchebag?
That bumper sticker is kind of funny though.
Funny sticker along with an amusing example of what happens when you feed the troll
It’s some classic oldschool trolling. The best kind of troll is one where literally everyone reading the post can see that the troll is trolling, except for the person being trolled who thinks they’re in a debate that they have a chance of somehow winning
You’re not meant to think well of the troll. It’s not really a person as much as a role. You’re supposed to laugh at the idiots replying to it.
Thought you break into song there for a second.
You are not meant to think well of the troll. It’s not really a person as much as a role. Don’t answer the post; don’t rise to the bait. The troll does not care, it just wants you irate. No matter the subject, the topic, the polls. Just let it go. Don’t feed the trolls.
Fucking beautiful 🥹
Now that my son
is how the internet works
It can be really good
or make your life easily worse.
Pay no heed
to crazy shit too good to believe.
Many times they tell
a lie an hoax just sell.
Here an there a scam
for your wallet to ram.
Lol, I realized the first bit rhymed right as I posted it. Sorry for the let down.
But you did not turn around and desert them
I don’t know about you, but it freaking hilarious.
He’s definitely something of a douche, but so are the people he’s winding up.
On one hand, the US military is terrible and anything that causes people to not go to it is good.
On the other hand, most people who join the military join out of desperation due to poverty and wanting better opportunities, so I kinda empathize with them without approving of their actions. Not to mention, the military tries its best to recruit fresh 18 year olds. Why are we judging TEENAGERS for their bad choices? The brain doesn’t develop fully until 25. They’re essentially victims of grooming that turn into killers. It’s no different to me than joining a gang, and I don’t think this guy would have the balls to trash talk an actual gang member like this.
Basically, I would say to this guy “You’re not wrong, you’re just an asshole.”
He’s a hero. Unironically.
How so?
Not to give them too much credit for just posting, but if even a single person on the fence about signing on saw his posts and got anxious that their SO would cheat on them while they’re gone, then they’ve saved that person from making a terrible decision and, more importantly, saved the people who would’ve been personally harmed by their actions.
To defeat an enemy without firing a shot (except into their wife, heyoo) is the best form of victory. And it’s effective. It’s hard to combat enemy propaganda telling soldiers they’re the good guys because the enemy generally has a stronger signal and a captive audience - but remind them of home while playing on their existing anxieties, and they’ll be demoralized and less willing to continue the fight.
In case my perspective wasn’t clear, I hate the US military and generally consider doing things to hurt or demoralize the troops to be not only morally permissable, but morally commendable.
I find it kinda funny but maybe that’s because I’m stupid.
