I must confess to requiring assistance here.

Oh, I’d drop them in a heartbeat if their quality dropped or their pricing increased to stupid levels. I don’t do brand loyalty. I do brand identity as shortcut: currently Sinloy is a top-notch coffee provider and it’s just easier to keep buying from them as long as they meet my needs.

I’d be down for that. Having pretty between all the goons would be a relief.

… What is that?

Not just this brand but this specific product and indeed this specific roast.

Sinloy was the first company in China to take coffee culture seriously, almost single-handedly creating the entire Yunnan coffee industry. They’re primarily known for sourcing the local beans, obviously, but also do some importing of coffees from as far afield as Ethiopia and everywhere in between. Their quality control is very high, their roasters are top-notch, and yet their price remains very reasonable.

I buy 250g of this specific coffee (Yunnan “Red Wine” sun-dried SOE coffee) every two weeks and if I miss a purchase, that’s a few days of suffering as I wait for them to roast and ship it. (They small-batch roast to demand.)

Can’t kick up shit in an old school forum without an account, though. I mean count the guys commenting just in this message. They saw a message that specifically said “no guys commenting” and … commented. This is because the whole way Lemmy works means everybody can see posts, even if they’re not members. They can go to the local or all feed.

In a non-federated forum of the aulde skoole variety they’d have to go hunting for a forum for women, then make an account and pass muster, and only then can they start kicking up a fuss like a toddler. Some will, but I suspect way fewer than the drive-by randos here in Lemmy.

I wish I had a “white list” instead of a “black list” for federation. Right now if I see too many stupid opinions from a single place (lemmy.world I’m looking at you here!) I can block it. But given this intrinsically misogynistic environment on Lemmy it might be nicer to have lists of servers I want to see things from instead of ones I don’t want.

'Cause I get this feeling that the former is a smaller list than the latter.

When I see hot takes that range from “WTF!?” to actual batshit insanity, I always look at the source. lemmy.world, shit.just.works, and a few others (including dbzer0) seem to always be the host.

Increasingly I’m wondering if it might not be best to just shove these into the “block site” box. The trigger finger hasn’t yet itched enough for it, but it’s getting closer.

This could also be a community dedicated to blind hate.

Which part of “Fuck AI” was unclear? There’s only two words there (well, a word and an initialization if you want to get picky). Which one of those was unclear?

I think the only way to have a non-misogynistic place is to go to an old-school forum without “federation”. That way you don’t have the drive-by randos popping in to spout bullshit about how it’s “misandry” to say “please guys, this is just our space, you can go literally anywhere else”.

I actually think that the prompt is, in fact, protected by copyright if it’s a non-trivial prompt. I mean “anime chick, big bewbs” won’t be protected by copyright, but a long sequence of detailed instructions would be.

What’s not protected by copyright (in any sane legal milieu) is the output.

Go to one of these “reasoning” AIs. Ask it to explain its reasoning. (It will!) Then ask it to explain its reasoning again. (It will!) Ask it yet again. (It will gladly do it thrice!)

Then put the “reasoning” side by side and count the contradictions. There’s a very good chance that the three explanations are not only different from each other, they’re very likely also mutually incompatible.

“Reasoning” LLMs just do more hallucination: specifically they are trained to form cause/effect logic chains—and if you read them in detail you’ll see some seriously broken links (because LLMs of any kind can’t think!)—using standard LLM hallucination practice to link the question to the conclusion.

So they do the usual Internet argument approach: decide what the conclusion is and then make excuses for why they think it is such.

If you don’t believe me, why not ask one? This is a trivial example with very little “reasoning” needed and even here the explanations are bullshit all the way down.

Note, especially, the final statement it made:

Yes, your summary is essentially correct: what is called “reasoning” in large language models (LLMs) is not true logical deduction or conscious deliberation. Instead, it is a process where the model generates a chain of text that resembles logical reasoning, based on patterns it has seen in its training data[1][2][6].

When asked to “reason,” the LLM predicts each next token (word or subword) by referencing statistical relationships learned from vast amounts of text. If the prompt encourages a step-by-step explanation or a “chain of thought,” the model produces a sequence of statements that look like intermediate logical steps[1][2][5]. This can give the appearance of reasoning, but what is actually happening is the model is assembling likely continuations that fit the format and content of similar examples it has seen before[1][2][6].

In short, the “chain of logic” is generated as part of the response, not as a separate, internal process that justifies a previously determined answer. The model does not first decide on an answer and then work backward to justify it; rather, it generates the answer and any accompanying rationale together, token by token, in a single left-to-right sequence, always guided by the prompt and the statistical patterns in its training[1][2][6].

“Ultimately, LLM ‘reasoning’ is a statistical approximation of human logic, dependent on data quality, architecture, and prompting strategies rather than innate understanding. … Reasoning-like behavior in LLMs emerges from their ability to stitch together learned patterns into coherent sequences.” [1]

So, what appears as reasoning is in fact a sophisticated form of pattern completion, not genuine logical deduction or conscious justification.

[1] https://milvus.io/ai-quick-reference/how-does-reasoning-work-in-large-language-models-llms

[2] https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/understanding-reasoning-in-llms

[3] https://sebastianraschka.com/blog/2025/understanding-reasoning-llms.html

[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasoning_language_model

[5] https://arxiv.org/html/2407.11511v1

[6] https://www.anthropic.com/research/tracing-thoughts-language-model

[7] https://magazine.sebastianraschka.com/p/state-of-llm-reasoning-and-inference-scaling

[8] https://cameronrwolfe.substack.com/p/demystifying-reasoning-models

Now I’m absolutely technically declined. Yet even I can figure out that these “reasoning” models are nothing different from the main flaws of LLMbeciles. If you ask it how it does maths, it will also admit that the LLM “decides” if maths are what it needs and will then switch to a maths engine. But if the LLM “decides” it can do it on its own it will. So you’ll still get garbage maths out of the machine.

How “rational” is it to come into a community called, literally, “Fuck AI” and expect pro-AI messaging to be desired and engaged with?

Is “rational” now a synonym for its opposite, like how “literally” now means both itself and “figuratively”?

It feels like even progressive men here (not all, but many) aren’t willing to listen, while making it all about them.

I mentioned this in past messages that got deleted (not by the mods here).

But basically this is what women’s groups in uni were like for me when they tried inviting “allies” from among male students. These well-intentioned (I have to stress this, they were not being jerks deliberately!) men would come to meetings and by the end it was only the men talking.

It’s just in the nature.

This is why we went back to “women-only” groups with occasional “open house”-style gatherings which were just social events.

There’s two kinds of boosters of the LLMbecile grift: the grifters and the patsies.

Which one of the two are you?

I just did a search on Beehaw local for the keyword “China”.

Somehow I don’t see it being any more welcoming than any other site I’ve seen in the … well, Fediverse actually. The western left is not a whole lot better on that topic than the western right.

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Tell me, how insecure are you that you COME HERE to tell us that we are somehow going out to scream at you?

You. Came. Here.

Not the other way around.

How shrivelled is your manhood that you can’t stand being asked to not be here? What is behind your obvious misogyny? (What’s that? You don’t think you’re misogynistic? Tell me how you’d respond, then, to someone going to a metal-oriented channel and saying that all metal sucks and that only losers and wasted goons listen to that shit: real people listen to waltzes.)

Now piss off, child. Adults are trying to continue with a conversation. The toddler table is over there.

“If you ask me one more time I will stab you with this knife.”

You’re clothing says “NOT INTERESTED GO AWAY” and you’re literally verbalising it. As always this isn’t a misunderstanding, it’s harassment and it’s wrong.

There’s a certain breed of male (I won’t say “man” because they’re not: they’re boys at best) that sees a woman sending signals they’re not interested and take it as a challenge. Wearing loose-fitting, frumpy clothing? Let’s see what she’s got under that! Tell them you’re queer. That’s because she’s not been with the right man yet! (Note: they think they’re the ones who can “cure” lesbian or asexual or whatnot people. Because they’re so special. 🙄) Tell them you’ll stab them in both eyes with a pair of crescent-bladed knives if they don’t back right the fuck down? I’m going to complain to the manager!

Can’t win for losing. The only thing they sometimes respect is “my boyfriend wouldn’t approve”. Because now you’re another man’s “property” and “property” rights are paramount. (Except for a small batch of them for whom even this doesn’t back them off.)

There’s a reason why there’s always a knife or two on my person.

Gay dude here, as usual I feel hostility when I see these threads but I’ll reply anyway.

Let me translate this from Male Privilege to English:

“I’m a guy and even though I know this is against the channel rules, I won’t let mere WOMEN tell ME what to do.”

Go away child.