• protist@mander.xyz
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      Fight Club isn’t inherently incel content, but incels have a history of missing the point of media, and in this case many of them think Fight Club is an exaltation of the toxic masculinity to which they subscribe. It is not

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        Interesting! Thanks for explaining. Not sure how they would come to the conclusion though. „poor white men to blame for everything“ or something? I always found that fightclub was about a dude who grew up in a bleak and industrialized society breaking out of his hamster wheel and making space for himself in the world (and blowing shit up of course). What I took from it is that one should change stuff instead of going perfectionist mode. Not sure I explained it well.

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          The problem is they think Tyler Durden is cool? And that’s it, they don’t empathise with the narrators realization that Tyler is insane. That’s just the what the plot of the movie thinks. Same as American Psycho but that’s probably more crazy given the ending is him literally losing his mind

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            Precisely, same deal with the Joker, they watch and think, “Wow this guy makes a lot of sense! He’s not crazy, all of you are the crazy ones!” which is exactly what a crazy person would think lol.

            Like no, the solution to the fact that you don’t get laid isn’t “Well obviously I need to become an even shittier person.”

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            When I first watched the film I thought that as well. I grew up in a dysfunctional family where morals are optional. Over the years, tyler went from cool renegade to violent narcissist in my perception.

    • The Picard Maneuver@lemmy.worldOP
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      Lol, it’s just one of those movies that, for whatever reason, all the weird incel/manosphere circles attached to, like Driver or American Psycho.

      They’re great movies and there’s nothing wrong with them.

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        But of you’re making your cat watch them will effectively castate them, aren’t you saying that there’s something wrong with them…?

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          my guess is that you are putting to much thought in a simple meme, or OP is a genius and made a meme with 3 layers of interpretation

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      Yea, wtf do you mean? Is OOP some kinda single braINCEL organism?

      (Sorry OOP i just thought of this stupid funny wordplay, please dont turn me into an incel)

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          Agreed. My partner and I just rewatched it last month. It’s a real groundbreaker of its time. Going out on The Pixies is perfectly haunting.

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            It took me five minutes to find out that the credits track where is my mind is from the pixies. Thanks :) that was a fun revelation.

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      from other answer

      Fight Club isn’t inherently incel content, but incels have a history of missing the point of media, and in this case many of them think Fight Club is an exaltation of the toxic masculinity to which they subscribe. It is not

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          That’s a great point. In order to be media literate you usually need to understand complex relationships between individuals and the social structures they exist in.

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        Interesting, in the movie the main character even admits he’s nothing but a man-boy who can only pretend he has his life together but has no clue how the world works, then goes on a rage filled terrorist plot, despite not knowing how the world works. You could say Jack is an incel, and a loser. And Tyler is who he wants to be, but in the end it’s still a movie about a bunch of fucked up losers who don’t know how shit works.

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          The movie literally turns incel philosophy into a person, then proceeds to kill him. It’s not exactly subtle.

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    Cats are smart and will actually get the point when watching fight club, unlike incels. Don’t insult the cat like that by comparing their intelligence with that of incels.

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      This is what I meant when I said it’s been recognized as such. I failed to explain myself. I forget that we don’t all have the same media experience (I listen to podcasts that reference the lack of understanding of stupid people who miss the point).

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    Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate, Ben Shapiro, LouderWithCrowder - they’re all right there dude.