Been living like this for over a decade in south east asia and its incredible. Got all of my tech gadgets, 1gbps, jungle, beach, rescue dogs and occasional road trip to the city. If you can earn 3k usd/mo remotely you can have all of this too!
Why would it need fast internet? Fairly slow internet would be fine, stick a 4G antenna on the roof and I would be fine with that.
I legit almost had that dream. Used to live on the KY/TN border. Had 50 acres, half mile off the road and no neighbors. Right as I determined I was moving the local power company started their own fiber ISP. Brought fiber right up to the house.
Dpending on your definition of ‘fast’, you can pull this off with those newfangled 5G base station/routers.
Just gotta find a place near enough to a city, not too far into the boonies.
Cheaper than Starlink.
Fast enough to game to game on, unless there’s some kind of serious servicd outage or massive weather storm of some kind.
I am using 4G today for internet and its totally fine.
As someone who lives out in those boonies in the middle of a forest, (groceries are a mere 100 mile round trip. I did that yesterday), the internet has had a funny journey here. We pretty much went from dialup to fiber, sometimes it’s good to be last. We’ve had fiber now for 6 or 7 years. While it’s only 2.4G, still fast enough for most people. But weather can make internet and electricity somewhat spotty as winds can blow trees over and the lights go out.
But we still very much behind on cell service. Due to the trees and and hills, towers can be far and few between. Many places have poor to no service. I can sometimes get a text message out in my yard, but making a phone call isn’t happening. And most places I forage or hunt in have no service at all. If I have a heart attack, ain’t no one dialing 911 for me unless they use the land line in the house. Weirdly enough there is one spot one the lake I live on that I can get 5G. It seems to be about a 200 yard circle.
What all of these swaive, 'fisticated, and urbane Ubanites will miss is the “quality of life” they are used to. “Fun things” like movies, concerts, plays, shopping, fine dining, are either miles and miles away or non-existent. Best we can do for you is Brodini being in town for a one Saturday afternoon comedy magic show in the summer. And for shopping, you can always use Amazon and wait a week or two for the shipping.
But I get to sit here this morning, breathing in the smoke from the Canadian forest fires, (we are not quite in the promised orange yet today), and drink my tea over looking a quiet lake and listen to the loon out in front of my house. I think it takes a special mind set to live like this. And most people don’t have it because they don’t know anything different.
Thoreau comes to mind.
Yep… its a different way of life.
Slower, more intentional, less frills, less impulsive, different kinds of worries, different kinds of joys.
I myself am this… really weird sort of person that more or less grew up quite close to that, but alsi loved tech from a young age, went to uni, went to work as a corpo…
And I saw that all this ‘high falutin’ fast life was fun, very engaging, very rewarding in novel ways… but also, just… not ultimately sustainable, not the way we do it in most of the US… too much debt, too much consumerism, too much greed.
“Too many men, too many people, causing too many problems… not much love to go around.”
So, now that … well basically the economy is totally collapsing… well I at least am adaptable, and know how to live lean, do the long term planning I can afford to.
I forget which Bond movie it was, but Desmond Llewelyn’s last line as Q:
Always have an escape plan.
We all just want to be left alone, in some form or other. Ironically, in order to be left alone, we need to ban together.
You are absolutely right. Our world is imbalanced.
We are a social creature, we are such a social creature shaped by millions of years of cooperative survival, that we literally fall apart and die without social identity. We have “loneliness epidemics” while being more connected to each other than we could have ever imagined.
We desperately need social support, not just from friends and family but from communities. The whole “single family home” is a brand new concept in human society, we used to all live in villages where we knew each other, before that, huge tents and dugouts where we piled together and talked and cooked on fires together and shagged like animals day and night. We raised our kids as a community and nobody ever felt alone or adrift, and in fact being expelled from your community was one of the harshest punishments anyone could do to you.
So why are we all retreating to discord chats and AI text predictors? Why do we want to avoid our neighbors so desperately that we want to remove ourselves even further from our societies?
We are sad because we are alone, and we are alone because we are sad, and we have massive corporate machines pouring every placating, dopamine-numbing distraction down our gullets so we don’t actually start hanging out and socializing and forming communities again. If we did that, we might start sharing ideas and motivations and we might start changing systems… can’t have that! So best to keep reinforcing isolation. Show big, empty minimalist homes with huge TV screens as your “peak” goal in life, having isolated cabins in the woods with all the amenities as a measure of success. We run from people who think different instead of trying to convince them to be better and we argue with people ostensibly on our side and we get so stressed by it all that we do everything we can to turn off actual conscious, narrative thought.
Running water would be nice
Find a stream, dig a well, set up a rain collection system, have a cistern / pump / filter.
Yep, its difficult, but not impossible.
People have been doing that for tens of thousands of years… though I will grant you this is increasingly, unrealistically difficult for an average person to pull off these days, even if you basically learn how to properly do all of it yourself, lots more legal restrictions, and construction/materials are costly.
And solar panels and a big battery for electricity. And a good sceptic system so i don’t have to crap in a hole in the ground outdoors 500 feet away from my house. And a good general store in easy driving distance. And a powerful 4x4 vehicle that can get down to the main road even when the giant driveway path is very muddy or covered in 5 feet of snow. And a decent medical facility not too far away so when a health problem arises i don’t lose a limb that could’ve been saved. And a post office not too far away so i can get packages delivered. And and and …
I’d rather have a store within biking / fat biking / skiing / hiking distance to be less reliant on a car. Maybe some electric mobility option like an e-skidoo / ebike.
A poo bucket is not nearly as bad as it sounds. (Saw dust and distance keep the smell down.)
Otherwise, great list.
you have not smelt my brand
Counterpoint; a poo bucket is actually exactly as bad as it sounds
Saw dust or whatever, those things stinks. The best part is having people over and mixing all their crap in an enormous bucket 🤢🤮🪣
I have a quite good experience with these, and was surprised how little they smell (but it was an outside toilet with an incredible view)
Mine were always indoors, from those old ones with place for two, to modern ones with a sort of spanner to mix it all… They stink in various degrees up to like impossible. Outside it might be totally okay I guess (if it’s not in the winter or the muskitoes are not on a war path).
Not sure if you have control over it, but the ones I’ve used didn’t even smell when directly smelling over them. Not sure if there was something mixed in there too, to reduce the smell further. The owners used the resulting humus as fertilizer too.
I wonder if there’s some sort of oil you can pour over it so the scent molecules can’t escape into the air
Dry saw dust does a whole lot of work in these toilets.
you eat bismuth subgallate and it neutralizes the scent when you digest. it’s for people with missing digestive tracts.
Haha TIL!
at least in statesia the brand name (i swear i’m not going hailcorporate, just some people could use some and personal experience it works a hell of a lot better than poopourri) is devrom and it tends to run 20 to 40 usd for 200 pills. OTC, of course.
Petrol maybe 😁
And the Molotov Crap-tail is born. We did it.
Wait what? Like you poo in a bucket inside your house?
Yes. Though a dedicated room is very nice.
A “nearly safe for lunch” link (as far as images are concerned). https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Composting_toilet
Sounds like Jackson Hole would be perfect! Hope you’re a billionaire…
And a sewer system
In the winter you freeze your ass while in the summer the smell will floor you.
Solution is to settle in the tropics. No winters and you will smell all year round, all other smells will be masked.
Which only exists in a city
Septic tanks exist, yo.
Source: I live in a forest
Technically a septic tank is not considered a sewer system. A sewer system is a network of pipes, pumps, and other infrastructure designed to transport wastewater for central processing…a septic tank processes the waste on-site.
You are the best kind of correct, buuut yeah, if I flush and the sweetcorn goes somewhere that I don’t have to look at it then that’s enough for me :-)
If I put my septic tank on an adjacent property and also hook up my shed/barn to it (in addition to the cabin), can I call it a sewer system then?
Primitive Technology hasn’t done that yet?
I think that comes from the roof.
(water incursion is a huge source of anxiety; this place is NOT for me)
That roof looks very modern though. I don’t think there’s any more of a risk of water incursion from the roof than any other house
and air conditioning
Sometimes I get the vague sense that I’ve already seen a post in my /all view, but I don’t think i’ve ever seen them back to back like this. Not even the title is different
Cross-posting as part of ongoing boycotting/protest efforts against .ml
Why am I cross-posting .ml content?
I cross-post from .ml to the nearest relevant non-.ml comm to reduce the influence of .ml comms and indirectly, the instance as a whole, to make it an easier decision for other instance admins to defederate because one key reason I identified that admins don’t want to defederate is because .ml still has some very large comms and some niche comms.
Some highlights from the link:
"Don’t worry guys, the Uyghur Genocide was REALLY just birth control! ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/30580167
“See! nobody died IN Tiananmen Square, just AROUND it, so it doesn’t count!!” ~ Davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/30673342
.ml admin, Nutomics continued transphobia https://lemmy.world/post/29222558 The original transphobic Comment from Nutomic: https://lemmy.world/post/18236068
“NK is actually good and anything counter to that is Western propaganda!” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/31595035
General negative sentiment to other instances who haven’t “seen the way” yet ~davel, .ml admin https://lemmy.world/post/27426510
“If you don’t support Russia then you just don’t understand geopolitics” ~dessalines, .ml admin, dev https://lemmy.world/post/27352415
And so so much documentation on clear heavy handed censorship and bias also on the link. So much I can’t even put them all here because this comment would be really long.
I believe the behavior of its admins (the main admins are Lemmy devs) does harm to the overall growth of the Lemmy-verse and maybe even the Thrediverse (since Lemmy kinda kicked off the Thrediverse) because of its association with the devs of Lemmy and their insistence to use .ml as their personal political platform to spread harmful propaganda
On the outside, bringing up Lemmy frequently leads to comments like “Lemmy? Isn’t that the place with a bunch of tankies?” Or “Tried Lemmy, but found it full of pro Russia crap so I left”. The best way forward from that I see is to either widely defederate from .ml like the rest of the Triad, or pressure them to put a fair and unbiased as possible admin team.
Sure, but:
- That doesn’t excuse not even attempting a first-blush attempt at authoring even just the title yourself
and
- Constantly reposing duplicates en-mass makes the experience way worse for those of us who don’t have a personal vendetta against particular target lemmy instances and who haven’t defederated with them out of spite or distaste
do what you want but this is basically just petty vandalism
Constantly reposing duplicates en-mass makes the experience way worse for those of us who don’t have a personal vendetta against particular target lemmy instances and who haven’t defederated with them out of spite or distaste
It’s not possible to cater things in a way that’s pleasant for everyone at once. Your slightly degraded experience, is another’s “godsend” be it because they were forced out of .ml because of the “horrible” crime of supporting ukraine or calling out Russian propaganda or because by choice ala instance defederation or choosing to block them
Hence the reason people say, you need to cater your feed for an optimal experience.
Making the experience worse for everyone because you have a personal ideological disagreement with another instance is hardly what I’d consider a justified moral crusade, but it’s easy enough to block reposts when they’re coming from a single user, so you do you.
I’m curious how you can justify speaking for everyone? How is everyone’s experience worse? I’m sure the users of lemmy.cafe or any other instance that defederates or otherwise blocks .ml don’t notice a degradation.
I’ve even had people thank me for doing what I do because it’s actually an improvement for them so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Reposting these memes shows up on everyone’s feed regardless of if they’re subscribed or federated with .ml - i’m not speaking for ‘everyone’, only pointing out who your script is impacting, which is everyone in that subset.
Not everyone has gotten banned on .ml.
Just a small point of clarification, there’s no script, every crosspost is done manually. It would actually be rather impractical to script it, since I wouldn’t want to accidentally crosspost some Tankie crap, like an RT article or a pro-NK meme or something lmao
Just don’t touch the book or listen to the audio tape you find in the cellar.
I absolutely recommend touching the book. The flesh binding and esoteric runes are metal AF and look good on the coffee table.
Just remember that you must say these words exactly when removing the book from its cradle: Klaatu barada nikto.
Okay, I’m drawing a line in the fucking sand, here. Do not read the Latin.
Do not read the Latin.
Counterpoint: you used to be lonely, but now that you have summoned your “friend” you will never ever be alone (now matter how much you try)!
Don’t tell me what to do! 😤
Well that and food. Might need food to survive.
Theres food in the forest, I’ll need a oversized soaking tub.
You gotta pick a fuckton of berries and hunt a lot of squirrels unless you have both the acres and knowledge to actually farm and homestead.
Fishing if you are near the sea is an option too. Stick a few pots out in the morning, go check them in the afternoon for your dinner. Even with string I have managed to catch some big spider crabs in just a few minutes. A pot should get you loads. Seaweed for some veg on the side.
If the waters here were not so polluted I could be eating crab/lobster every day!
Depending on where you are long pork is an option, people go missing in national parks all the time what’s a few more?
While I was going to make a point about diseases being transmittable through human meat, it did remind me that CWD, or Zombie Deer Disease is raging across now a third of the US or so, and a huge swath of Canada as well. It’s a prion disease, not a virus or bacteria, there is no cure or antidote, cannot be cooked out and can even survive autoclaves, and it’s 100% fatal over time, and we have no real good idea how it’s spreading or how readily it can be transmitted to humans. (There have already been some infections.)
If you do ever end up in the woods, do not eat the deer unless you’re starving and even then, avoid lymph nodes, brains and organ meat generally. Even still they think it can be spread from blood.
I’d spear hunt the boar I don’t like deer.
Nah, I still want to live in a community. Just not the fake community we have now.
Also, log cabin homes are bad. The one pictured has the internal space of an efficiency apartment, but uses far more logs of wood to get a much draftier result. You could get a lot of 2x4s out of this thing.
Drafty? You know they put isolation between the logs right?
By not opening the logs, you don’t invite moisture to the wood either. If you made them into 2x4’s and didn’t treat them, you’d have rot within a few years. It’s not exactly a coincidence that log cabins where the norm where you had enough wood to support them.
Yea but if a tree falls on it, its going to survive the impact. Which is kind of important in the woods.
Tree falls on your log cabin — now you just have more house.
- Mitch Hedberg
Native Americans came up with plenty of dwellings using the same materials in the same environment. Most of those were far less wasteful. Trees falling are not that common.
Were they permanent dwellings? It’s fascinating how different cultures come up with different construction techniques, if you have any links with more info could you please share them?
Funny enough, a tree just fell on my water tank at camp.
Whenever this get posted people comment about ACKTUALLY this is bad because no food/water/electricity or whatever but I think we’re missing the point. If you magically woke up one day and had rightful ownership of this land and this house, presumably getting out of paying housing costs or rent, well, if that happened to me that would be the highest point of my life so far. Solving the problems of all the other stuff you wouldn’t have is still a more realistically solvable problem than trying to make a sustainable income in the face of rigged housing costs in this absolute clown show of a society we live in.
Honestly, I’d be ecstatic with owning any property right now…
The fact that I’m not only not alone in this, but the sentiment is held by a statistically significant percentage of people… That is the problem.
So, the exurbs?
too many spiders
Nah, this and a laptop with 16TB.
Ans offline backups for different wikis and game roms for many gens of consoles and handhelds.
Absolutely not. I was doing Spanish learning on an app and laughed at the guy who moved from “una casa oscura en las afueras” to “un apartmento soleado en el centro” (from the dark and gloomy house in the outskirts to the sunny apartment in the center of town) and raised his spirits because that is also the way I feel about living.
