Dont forget, if dems dont vote its a guarantee that rupublicans will win. Vote early and dont forget to vote on your local elections too. Even a judge can make all the difference
before that we also need to make sure superpac backed trash don’t get past the primaries.
trump got elected twice because dnc has become infested by shills like pelosi and schumer who keep sabotaging progressives like bernie and aoc.
pelosi will happily support ice and any anti-working class initiative as long she gets her cut. schumer is an israeli agent who would support brining back slavery if it allows idf to murder more children.
also DNC wouldnt even investigate the eleciton rigging of the machines, 2 times it happened until it was too late, they are totally complicit. yes we know they are going to get called out as rigging the electiona s well.
Blue maga take
If voting made a difference it would be illegal.
Shut the fuck up with your defeatist bullshit. You’re either a Russian bot or doing their work for free you fucking loser. Be better.
speaking the truth is bravery in times like these
Hahahahahahaha
Not even if the Dems had the vote. I am positive someone would block it for civility reasons.
The dems can not get out of their own way. See Zohran win in NYC.
See Zohran win in NYC.
Why? The headlines on lemmy made me think that he is the good candidate.
Yes he’s wildly popular.
The DNC is considering not giving him the nomination regardless of his win of the primary.
Andrew Cuomo is running independent with his Super PAC that raised billions of dollars.
Bill Ackman is offering billions of dollars to anybody who can ensure that Zohran cannot win. Admittedly this last one’s a bit of a stretch since this dude’s also a trump supporter.
These are examples of the DNC not getting out of its own way.
The DNC is considering not giving him the nomination regardless of his win of the primary.
The Democratic National Committee does not decide State and Local nominations.
They can’t even “refuse to nominate” for congression races. The only power they have is dictating the rules for the US Presidential Nomination.
Other than the Presidency whoever wins the primary is the nominee under state laws. Otherwise they could’ve just “refuse to nominate” AOC (which they had no legal power to do btw).
Their main power is mostly just money to buy propaganda. If people can just be smarter and ignore the propaganda, they could take over easily. The only reason the establishment maintain their power is because the people allows them to keep their power.
The dems can not get out of their own way. See Zohran win in NYC.
So vote to expand the progressive side of the dem party
You mean to say our votes can override an organization that argued in court that since its a private service they could just ignore the vote of the people and pick who they wanted?
The same organization that always manages to organize and attack leftist like Zohran and Bernie but can’t find any footing against Trump?
Yep. That will work. Just gotta vote harder.
Correct, so show up. We need to vote, and we need to protest.
Head is so deep in the sand. Keep coping bud.
I really really don’t think that will change anything. People been trying to change the democrats for the better part of ten years.
Name one landmark foundational thing they have done in the last ten years thats really benefited the majority of Americans.
There isn’t one that isn’t a major concession that undercuts the original proposal.
lol at only 10 years
You’re right and part of that is people like you not showing up. None voting has had the most votes in all those elections.
maybe because thre is no one worth voting for in USA?
I am under no illusions that even if and it’s a big if the Democrats managed to take back enough seats in both the house and the Senate to actually impeach and prosecute Trump that they still won’t do it that they will be spineless and that they will offer supposed Olive branches across the aisle.
We had one guy win a primary in a mayoral race. You guys are acting as if this changes everything. It’s interesting to watch for sure and there are lessons to be learned but that does not mean that everything is changing. It’s not even guaranteed he’ll win the Mayoral race. The DNC is even considering not giving him the nomination despite him winning.
The billionaire class is already mobilizing to try and ensure this guy never gets elected. Do you think they’re going to make it any easier when he’s in office?
By all means we should engage in electoral politics but we should not be under any illusions that it will fix the system we have nor should we be under any illusion that our politicians will save us from the problem that is Donald Trump. If anything the Democrats seem more than happy to capitulate to what he wants since they’re not in the majority.
The first step is to crucify any Democrat that isn’t willing to actually fight.
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Still thinking that salvation will come from within the system is peak levels of cope.
Sure lets not vote and make it certain Trump gets equal or more power. Even if you don’t believe change will come from the system, any chance to slow Trump down should be fully used!
Thinking that you have support for a revolt when people can’t even fill out a piece of paper is peak levels of delusion.
Ah yes, an entire population of people who have been disenfranchised by the system absolutely don’t have incentives to rally around dismantling the very institutions that oppress them. Obviously thinking so is delusional.
K bud. Cool story. Just keep voting harder, cause that’s been working so well since fucking Reagan.
You misunderstand.
Revolution is often romanticized, but the US literally has the 2nd amendment and easy access to guns, do you see a revolt? It aint happening any time soon.
“2A is gonna save us” is delusion. I’m not against guns, but its not remotely realistic to expect there to be support for revolt.
You survival choices are either (1) vote and hope, or (2) you flee the country, don’t expect an uprising.
Cool story.
Can’t wait for it to be more corporate trash that pushes people into Republican arms!
I am utterly convinced that it won’t matter, but damnit we still have to fucking try.
It’s time to take our fuckin country back
Never going to happen until the mega rich (who run the country) are afraid to walk the street.
We need to make fascists afraid again
The seats that need to be taken I don’t think are sided towards the Democrats getting enough. States like Alabama have had a Democrat Senator in recent years but for it to flip from a Republican back to a Democrat seems tough with how divided and how far right some states have slid. (Nearly 65% voted for Trump there in 2024).
Kyle Sweetster may be their best shot of a democrat winning , but it’s a long ways away and who knows what could change. https://www.kyleforalabama.com/
I swear it’s always the fucking South dragging the rest of us down…
Democracy isn’t real
lot of trolls in .ml
I laughed a bit harder than I should’ve at this
It’s not like I’m hiding those comments. I didn’t delete them.
Perhaps, but fascism has no place in the 21st century at all.
Who are you responding to?
You.
You said democracy isn’t real. I said perhaps, but also that the people of the United States shouldn’t tolerate fascism as it has no place in the modern world.
Which part aren’t you understanding?
If democracy isn’t real which government do you propose?
You tell me. You’re the one who said it isn’t real.
You granted I might be right. So I asked (first) what our options are if this is the case. You’re evading the question.
In the US? Or as a concept? Because I have a few things happening in my country that are the definition of democracy.
High likelihood your country is not consequential geopolitically. That or you’re fooled.
Oh, so now democracy doesn’t exist if you’re country is “not consequential geopolitically”? Either it exists or it doesn’t.
Nice moving the goal post, no wonder I have you at -20 net downvotes organically.
I’m saying voting for class president isn’t the same as voting for the leader of a sovereign hegemon. Maybe Belgium, for example, has a “democracy” but ultimately Europe is a footstool for the United States. It can act ‘independently’ only as long as it pays tribute to the regional power. This is same for countries in Asia, the Middle East, Eurasia etc What use is your democracy if it functions within a false paradigm? The political equivalent of “playing house”.
We have a “leader of a sovereignty” with a GDP above Spain and Australia, though?
It sounds to me like you think not having a perfect democracy gets in the way of having a good one.
Both Spain and Australia are within the United States sphere of influence and that’s just two countries. There are really only a handful of countries with actual sovereignty. The US, China, Russia, India, Israel and to a far lesser degree Iran and maybe Brazil. Even if all other countries were perfectly functioning democracies they would fall under the influence of one of these hegemons. This means there are things you can’t vote for and more often than not your democracy is only tolerated and often defended by a larger power that is a democracy in name only. You are a mock congress in a civics class. Power always wins out. That’s not a political opinion it’s a fact. Votes have little to no power. Hordes of enraged peasants DO have power which is why they are placated with activities like voting. Artificial agency.
Turn-out for primaries is minuscule. If you’re in a deep red state that has fully open primaries, you can request a republican primary ballot. I guarantee if you fully look into every primary candidate there will be a reasonable person who is at least open to impeaching or otherwise opposing Trump.
If it’s a partially-open primary state you will have to switch to independent to vote strategically in primaries.
If you’re in a deep-red state with closed primaries, it’s worth considering switching affiliations just so you can have some say in who represents you.
I know it’s like sifting through shit to find an edible kernel of corn, but it’s what has to be done to stop this in deep-red states.
I honestly quite afraid they are gonna rig the fuck outta the mid-terms somehow. I realize I have little to no evidence to support that, but doesn’t mean it couldn’t still happen under this regime.
2024 seemed to be rigged at the top only. That’s how we ended up with so many people voting a straight Democratic ticket, except for HitlerPig at the top, which Dems have been trying to convince us is perfectly normal, which it isn’t.
Its one thing to rig the vote in one race in seven swing states, it’s another to rig 435 Congressional races around the country. That would be nearly impossible. It would take multiple operatives in every district, and at some point, somebody would squeal.
The Senate races pose other challenges, although they only really have to identify a handful of close races, and make sure those fall to MAGA.
The MAGA Nazis can’t afford to let either chamber flip, or the Democrats will have control of investigative committees with subpoena and arrest powers. If that starts, it will end with prison terms for many.
So I’m convinced that they will “suspend” elections using Martial Law, or the Insurrection Act, or some other legal atrocity.
people voting a straight Democratic ticket, except for HitlerPig at the top, which Dems have been trying to convince us is perfectly normal, which it isn’t.
What. The dems saying that’s normal? Where!
So I’m convinced that they will “suspend” elections using Martial Law, or the Insurrection Act, or some other legal atrocity.
They’re stupid enough to do it, but I doubt they’ll get all the buy in they’d need.
You’re not the only one.
Ah yes, impeach the already twice impeached, 34 time convicted felon
These cunts don’t care about law so stop taking the high road, when they go low, kick them in the fucking teeth
Literally if possible
Well with a bulletproof majority we could do that.
Not counting fucking piece of shit Sinemas/Manchins. Actual Democratic leaders. People younger than 65 who want to break this fascist headlock.
vote like it in checks notes a year and a half… we need to be acting now and not waiting for elections.
Nothing stopping us.
But a bunch of people around here have no intention of voting Democrat and so finding their person, getting the signatures, raising some money, getting on the ballot, it’s all going to take time.
If you can’t be arsed to change your local party, find a new one or GTFO. Last August we had a truckload of people just proud as a pig in shit that they weren’t going to vote. Fuck that.
The most important part of this is the primaries. If we fill these seats with a bunch of Chuck Schumers/Hakeem Jeffries it won’t make a difference. If we fill them with Zohran Mamdanis, on the other hand…
Yupp, don’t let them tell you yet another “compromise” candidate, who “at least isn’t the red elephant person” is gonna cut it. They have been losing elections, they spark no enthusiasm, they are not the “safe option”.
That being said, do organise and network outside of party politics, too. Elections are an important part of everything, they to mould the status quo to some degree, and can heavily shift context of further political work - but getting beyond the structural shit that put Trump into power requires more than that. Joining (preferrably radical) unions, showing up to town halls and the likes, networking with neighbours and friends for mutual aid and emergency support, community defence organisations, civil rights orgs, etc. etc. Both informal and formal organisation is needed wherever you can.
‘They’ say that because turnout for primaries is always abysmal, so candidates who make it to generals are usually centrist.
If progressives actually voted in primaries, they’d have the options they want in generals. But usually, the vast majority who vote in primaries are older, more moderate voters.
Progressive candidates exist, but if you want them, you can’t just vote every 4 years.
Honestly, primaries are all that matter.
If progressives don’t win the primaries, all we have to vote for are centrists and fascists, which means more fascism.
Please, please vote in primaries and get everyone you know to vote in the primaries, too.
Which is probably why the DNC didn’t let us have a primary for the 2024 election. They knew their status quo candidate didn’t have any juice behind her but didn’t want to open the door to that criticism.
There was a primary, and Biden won by a landslide.
Oh quit this horse shit. Nothing worse than an obvious liar.
There literally were primaries. I don’t approve of the outcome, but they did hold primaries.
That was not a primary. That was a ruse to fool people like you.
It literally was a primary. None of us have to approve of the candidates or the result, but they did hold primaries.
Biden wasn’t on my ballot during the election
No, since he was forced out months after the primaries. I don’t know if it had gone better had he stayed though…
If we fill them with Zohran Mamdanis, on the other hand…
Fair - find and support your people, people!
Meh, any Democrat is better than any Republican. The fact that Trump rages on twitter about Schumer means something hes doing is right.
Yeah but the old-school Dems won’t inspire people to get off their ass and vote.
Personally, they have and they will. I love the DNC platform, I hope soon we can give them more than 50 senate seats for the first time in over a decade.
I love their platform as well! But they are not executing. All the talk and position papers in the world mean nothing IRL if there’s no action.
Theres no action because they haven’t had more than 50 seats (including caucus) in over a decade.
So, might it be fair to say they’re losing? Perhaps because they can’t execute?
You’re mad that the people you refuse to let do the thing aren’t doing the thing?
Hey, if you ever want to come join us here in reality, I’ll save you a seat.
I’m sorry you choose to believe in an alternate reality, get well soon.
Personally, they have and they will.
Man, if you want to argue that milquetoast moderate Dems get the largest number of votes by offending the least number of potential voters, that’s one thing, but old-school Dems have a very poor track record of generating enthusiasm compared to alternatives.
Thats why I said “personally” as in me myself.
It’s giving “getting kicked in the nuts is better than getting kicked in the head.”
Getting kicked in the nuts is better than being gutted with a fishing knife.
Yeah, no shit.
It’s not something everyone recognizes.
Which it undeniably is
You think exapanded healthcare is a kick in the nuts?
I think complicity with a humanitarian crisis that gets repeatedly labeled as either genocide or ethnic cleansing is a kick in the nuts.
I think 128 Dem reps voting with Republicans to table impeachment proceedings against an authoritarian president is a kick in the nuts.
But more to your point, I think arguing for expanding healthcare within the context of a system of predatory insurance companies and for-profit healthcare facilities does little to actually fix what is wrong with healthcare. So yeah, kick in the nuts for sure.
Honey your options are genocide or passive nonconfrontational opposition to genocide.
If you cared at all about Pallestine you would want to remove every Republican first and foremost.
Psst. They don’t actually care about Palestine or they would have voted for the best possible option for Palestine.
It was always about stroking their moral superiority boner.
Sorry babe, you’re a lost cause. You keep moving around from argument to argument to just avoid facing the reality: the democratic party, in its current form, offers nothing of substance that resonates with voters. If you’re right, and theyre bring ‘misled’, then that just solidifies how awfully impotent Dem messaging is.
I stuck to the topic you brought up, pal.
