Talk with people! Discuss it with your friends! Be aware that they might have a very different outlook on this, so be patient with people. Here is a list of things to do when discussing this with people supporting Israel:
- Don’t berate them. These are your friends, not murderers. Direct your anger towards the actual murderers.
- Ask them if they believe Israel is mounting a heavy disinformation/propaganda campaign towards the west. If they do not believe this, it is relatively easy to prove, see example below.
- Show them the Twitter accs of Itamar Ben Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich. These guys are quite outspoken in their intentions.
- Show them examples of heroic acts of Palestinas, rather than just Palestinians suffering. This will help them respect Arabs, as that seems to be difficult for many Americans due to two and a half decades of Indoctrination that all arabs all terrorists.
- Also the obvious things (tens of thousands of children killed, not letting food enter, cutting off water, etc)
Example of Israeli disinformation: They created a fake hamas website (hamas dotttt com) whereas the real website was taken down from all of internet (hamas dottt ps). The fake one was heavily promoted by Israel’s official twitter acc and several Israeli government officials on twitter and recieved heavy traffic during Oct 2023-end of 2024. Use the wayback machine or similar for this, I believe both sites are down now.
There has also been many, many other lies by the Israeli government. Find proved examples and show.
- get a sniper rifle
- train to take out targets at a large distance
- know where and when ICE will be, especially where they will muster before one of their “raids”
- in many cases, there will be little to no difference between ICE and LEO. Both are putting on brown shirts and violently attacking their own communities.
Fascism can only be perpetuated when fascists do not fear being killed. If you are not with them, they will gladly kill you – it’s time you took steps to protect yourself and your community.
Is the USA enabling genocide?
If anything, enabling is too soft a word
Look guys, we have weapons to sell. It’s what we do.
You make it sound like Israel actually pays for it’s weapons!
Yes
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Go to gaza
What an horrible thing to say. My best friend sister tried going there. The boat got bombed in malta.
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Unless you’re a billionaire or willing to go full Player 2, there’s nothing you can do on a macro scale.
You can, in your little slice of the world, do good things. When ICE asks you if you’ve seen someone, you tell them you haven’t. If you’re walking past a business getting raided and see a brown person, you tell them to turn around and get away. If you run a school and ICE shows up, you stand up for the kids they’re trying to kidnap. If you see ICE kidnapping someone, at minimum, film and post it. If there’s a group of people willing to physically intervene, join them.
That’s it.
Voting doesn’t solve this because all Democrats have to offer is strongly-worded letters, and Donald uses those letters to wipe Elon Musk’s ass. Their choice was aiding and abetting fascism or getting richer, and they chose the money.
Become Luigi.
I don’t know, but I know of one thing citizens SHOULDN’T do to prevent their country enabling genocide. That is forfeiting their future by electing a dictator that might genocide poor people on the other side of the world a little less in exchange for giving up freedoms. I get it. Voluntarily making our lives worse/harder because it might help poor people in another country sounds like a grand and noble thing to do. But now they’re sending American citizens to concentration camps. If you think this was a fair trade, just block me right now. Don’t be like gen Z and swing voters in the 2024 US election. Sometimes you just have to choose to save yourself first.
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60000 gazans had died by june last year according to the lancet. Remind me who was in charge then?
This is shocking to me. The person is genuinely asking how to stop genociders and some rando comes and tell him to vote for them.
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Vote with your wallet. Money is the only thing that matters to the people in charge here
Voting with your wallet is a lie, like recycling plastic
You can’t do collective action individually. You can make the house hurt a little bit, but you’ll never force them to change through what you buy. The house always wins, unless you get together to change the rules
This but big. Large scale disruption to the economy would do a lot toward fixing problems.
Exactly. Here’s a thought… and I’m just spitballing here: tariffs. Then take them away. Then add them again. Then take them away. Then add them again. /s
Someone get this chap to run for office!
Look, we don’t just elect anyone, here. How many pussies have they grabbed? How many bankruptcies? These kinds of things are the bedrock of our election standards, established in 2015, and cannot, in good conscience, be unanswered.
That’s some cool stable genius shit!
The harmful corruption must be torn down before peaceful negotiation may take place.
So just sit back and let Trump do his thing?
Can you give some examples?
Buy local, in cash.
Every card transaction benefits the big credit card companies, all of which are complicit. Local businesses are some of the ones hit hardest from all of this and will need your support.
Avoid chains owned by local folks, too. Those big chains still benefit even if it’s your neighbor that owns the local McDonalds.
Support things the government is trying to destroy, like your local library, and your local stores that sell LGBT positive merchandise.
Make friends with your neighbors. Grow things in your yard that they need and trade for stuff you need. Many folks that seem in agreement with all of this really aren’t if you know them. We are stronger together.
In regards to home gardens, Not everyone needs everything, but everyone needs something. If you can get chickens or some kind of egg laying fowl, then that’s a possibility as well. Guineas are fighters and do well in areas without a lot of brush or low trees.
Bike as much as you can. Avoid gas as much as you can. Ride the bus or a train. Don’t fly anywhere. Install solar panels if you are able. Capture rain water and use it for your garden.
Buy used as much as possible, especially clothes.
Replace your single use materials in your home with reusable ones. Rags instead of paper towels, glass containers instead of plastic ones, metal straws, and a water pick instead of floss.
Make things. Anything. Don’t monetize your hobbies, share them instead. Trade homemade goods and art for other stuff.
Avoid the dollar as much as possible, and use cash when you can’t.
Where possible, avoid buying from companies that are complicit. It’s not always possible but it’s worth trying.
I’ve used apps like this to help make decisions:
Where possible, avoid buying from companies that are complicit.
Unless you buy from local creators/farmers, EVERYONE is complicit.
Simply existing is destroying the planet, so, like many things, you practice harm reduction. If I need to buy hardware or tools, and there’s no local shop, I go to Lowe’s. Not because Lowe’s is awesome, it’s a shitty corporation. But because Home Depot donates money to groups that practice gay conversion therapy, which is worse than anything I know of that Lowe’s does.
Pretty much every decision you make can be about harm reduction on some level. Don’t let perfect be the enemy of better.
My problem is that I never even HEARD of the Home Depot thing.
Here’s one you may or may not know about. Nestle actually engages in and uses literal slave labor to grow coco beans in other countries.
So you think “well, how hard is it really to just buy hersheys chocolate instead? And buy your cookies from local bakeries?”
Except no. Nestle is more than just chocolate. It’s like hundreds of brands. I’m constantly checking packaging now to see if their logo is on products. It owns DiGorno pizza. It owns Hot Pockets. It owns water bottles. It’s like half the grocery store. And that’s just ONE COMPANY!!!
My issue isn’t accepting that you’re right. My issue is keeping track of it all. I’ve hated Nestle since 2012. I didn’t realize the scope of their brands until 2020. I think they even own a pet food company that makes dog food and cat food. Now granted I don’t have pets, so I’d not have delt with that, but still.
I only have so many brain cells left to rot before I’m a full on dementia ridden crazy person who thinks it’s still the Nixon years, despite the fact I was born in 1983.
The No Thanks app let’s you scan barcodes to quickly check if a product is on the BDS list. You can also search. Either way it only takes a few seconds to check if unsure about a brand
It was about the same years for me that I realized the scale of evil at Nestle, followed by learning they make everything. In fact we were even born the same year.
I hear you. All we can do is our best.
But your local farmers likely voted for the more genocidal candidate. Does that count as being complicit?
Also, their seeds likely have to rebought every year from some corporation, due to patents BS, meaning you are still indirectly supporting evil.
Ah fuck, we’re all gonna end up in The Bad Place.
Not every one but all mega corps for sure and we are mostly fucked by them…
Thanks for attempting an answer. I’ve got to say this feels laughable in light of what’s going on.
“vote with your wallet” while our wallets are empty
join your local protests today :)
if protests didn’t work they wouldn’t try so hard to fight it/buty it
they say violence is never the answer but historically, well, history disagrees.
My issue is I never know there ARE protests until like 4 days after it happened.
Check for any local organizations such as DSA. Their mailing lists can keep you posted on protests near you
ugh. for real though lol
I’ve been recommended 50501 and mobilize.us
there’s also !50501@piefed.social and !Mirror@50501.chat on lemmy
The Spanish went on general strike to stop their country’s complicity in genocide, but failing that you can start with these guys. You can just write BDS on Wikipedia if you want to know what they’re about, but this site has plenty of concrete, actionable steps you can take to reduce your, your community’s, your workplace’s and—with enough people on board—your country’s complicity in genocide. I’d suggest looking into apartheid-free zones as a start. I also want to note that the best thing you can do for Palestinians is to spread the word and get more people on the side of humanity.
Also, if you’re not already doing so, organize in your community and workplace, and use your collective leverage to push for causes you care about. Be an active participant in the fight against fascism and for democracy, equity and solidarity. These values, I should add, are already mutually exclusive with Zionism, so you’d be hitting two birds with one stone.
Edit: In case anyone wants assurance that this works (or just wants to enjoy some economic schadenfreude), enjoy.
Spain did not go to general strike.
A general strike was convoked by a small union (as it is their right) and basically no one seconded the strike.
I don’t think I could, on good faith, call it a general strike if basically no one stopped working. Was a very minoritarian thing. General strike was called as it is a right unions have, but if workers decide not to follow there’s not a real strike to talk about.
Source: I’m Spanish and I clearly remember first hand what happened.
Second source: https://funcionpublica.digital.gob.es/dam/es/portalsefp/funcion-publica/dialogo-social/seguimiento-huelgas/27_9_2024_Datos_Huelga_General_convocada_por_CGT_y_SUO.pdf Strike supporting numbers for AGE workers. As you see about 1% of public workers followed the strike.
Is the USA enabling genocide currently? How?
I take it you do not believe Israel is commiting genocide? Or are you genuinely asking in which way the USA is enabling this?
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Speak up, tell people what you think and why.
If that doesn’t work: something was added to your constitution for this situation, the second amendment. You can use your six shooter to go up to the government’s tank and gunships. Good luck.
We don’t put it in the tourism brochures, but it turns out guns are really expensive. Which sucks because the fash seem to have all the money at the moment.
Buy a gun, and start learning to use it. Now is not the time, but be prepared should it.
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Next election vote EVERYONE OUT. No Republicans (MAGA) should be left in Congress to make sure they give a hell to Trump and force him to quit (almost near impossible) but that’s the only way
How would that help? The Democrats were also doing genocide
60000 people died in gaza by june last year, asshole. Remind me who was in charge then?
No, 60 thousand people were positively confirmed to have been directly killed by Israeli munitions. The number of people who died in total was estimated at a quarter million.
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Someone is feeling positive and adventurous, talking about voting and stuff… Do you really think that you’ll be able to vote in a fair election next time?
The work that I’ve seen done to sabotage voting before and after last US elections ntrlls me that cheeto&co are hell bent on making sure no one in the US will be able to vote honestly ever again.
The time to do something was 6 months ago, now its too little, too late
the SPD and KPD should’ve just voted the Nazis out of power, right guys?
It’s worse than that. The guy is suggesting to replace the Nazis with Nazis-lite lol
Stop supporting the right wing duopoly that enabled it
