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    Perma banned because I wished c-ncer on a pro-Israel troll. Is that an earned ban you guys think?

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      Hell, I said all Nazis can go die or kill themselves. Perm banned. Reason why I’m here. Fuck that place.

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      I got banned when I saw someone say trans kids should be hunted in schools, and I told them I wish they’d get hit with a brick.

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    Does saying “The only good fascist are very dead fascist” counts? What if I add that USA is a fascist country now? Will saying Donald is a pedophile still counts (I got banned for it already lol)? What about saying my favorite sport is nazi punching? And if I add that there’s no such thing as “roman salute”?

    Is Reddit about to drop a new t-shirt line “Protect fascist’s feeling” or something?

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      I said we used to have a method of dealing with traitors. Got banned for it.

      Fucking done with reddits shit.

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        Same, in January, I said something to the line of traitors used to be publicly hanged, now they’re elected and got banned for it. That was the last straw, came here right away and was happy to find the place striving compared to last time I tried it.

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      You mean if someone said something like, “Trump and Epstein raping a 13-year-old is a matter of court record.”?

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      Yes, this is the exact mentality.

      I got banned yesterday for basic “Eat the Rich” quotes with the occasional Luigi or Guillotine animated gif thrown in here or there.

      Reddit is cracking down on anticapitalists for sure.

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      Uh…the “badge of honor” would have been quitting back during api-gate and not looking back. Getting banned now just means one participated after that time, providing spez with traffic and value, and helped normalize the behaviour that is only just now a bridge too far.

      Today, a ban is the “conciliatory prize of not thinking ahead”.

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        3rd party apps closing down I can see from a business point. Makes good business sense. Keep everyone on your shitty app and monetize it. I wasn’t for it but understood the greedy fucks behind it.

        Now it’s just different. Banned for going against Nazis, just means they are in bed with Nazis. That’s the last straw.

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          Makes good business sense. Keep everyone on your shitty app and monetize it. I wasn’t for it but understood the greedy fucks behind it.

          Not understanding how greed and control are different manifestations of fascism is still on you. Corporations always align with fascists because a corporation is essentially a small kingdom where a handful of Lords make all the decisions for the peasants (workers/consumers).

          Plenty of us saw where this was headed because of the API drama.

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    reddit permabans you for vague interpretations of things they consider “threatening”

    its already a thought crime zone.

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    Lol, how is it even possible to upvote banned content? I mean, is it not deleted if banned?

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      Banned after you upvote it

      See something that’s pro-Luigi? That’s banned content

      Pro-lemmy? That’s banned content

      Upvoted a post about hypothetically killing a Republican? That’s banned content

      Etc

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        This type of behavior is never tolerate on Reddit. You disagree with a Redditor, straight to ban. No trial, no nothing. There’s no journalists. We’ll have a special subreddit for journallists. Under represent a Republican, believe it or not ban. Over represent a Democrat, also ban. Reddit has the best users on the internet.

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        They probably did this specifically because people were upvoting our favorite plumber.

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        I got banned on Reddit, not by moderators of the sub, but by site admins for saying I hold similar values about CEOs like Luigid did.

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    Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.

    “Hey, you have been liking things we disagree with and we need an echo chamber here, align with us or fuck off. Sincerely, the money hungry bitches of the internet! Also heil daddy musk!”

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      Of course they don’t. They banned me 3 years ago for saying that if you have the chance, you should always punch a Nazi.

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        Excuse me? If someone says they want a genocide you have to wait until they take over, only then are you allowed to support violence.

        I’m against violence, I think that reasonable and even somewhat unreasonable people should be talked with. But if someone says “fuck you I will kill you” you should have the right to punch them, it is the same as self defence, because next time they will kill you.

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          I know. The two reactions when I tell people about that are usually either rage or amusement. I’m here now, so fuck Reddit.

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            What was the actual reason they gave when they blocked your account. Because I had one of my accounts banned, but not for any logical reason, and they just gave me a made-up reason of I was being aggressive (I wasn’t being aggressive I was just pointing out to someone that he was gatekeeping, which he was).

            For contacts the guy was trying to suggest that the only people who should be allowed to be employed in the software development industry are people with a relevant university level qualification, which was obviously stupid because it would block pretty much all of the current tech billionaires from their own companies.

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              going to college to learn technology in the 1990s would have been useless for acquiring the skills that I have developed and honed in my 25+ years in tech

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        They permabanned two of my accounts during the election last year, just because I said I didn’t care when Trump said Liz Cheney should be shot. She’s a warmonger who’s called for violence against millions of innocent people. Not gonna clutch my pearls when anyone (even Trump) threatens her.

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      Basically declaring that they don’t allow free speech.

      It’s a privately owned platform. You never have an assurance of free speech on any of those, and on Reddit, the rot set in years ago.

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        I have a strange opinion, but here goes: The Right to Free Speech (Im in the US here), should protect you from censorship. Doing what Reddit is doing should be considered a Rights violation and we should be able to sue them into the ground.

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        There is a big jump from “we are a private company and we have internal rules” to “we are a private company and our internal rules that directly go against human rights”

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          Based on what I read in the posted article, everyone is making a big leap here. Of course I expect you all to be right in the end based on Reddit being a shitshow, but we don’t know what the content they are referring to is exactly.

          For all we know, they are only referring to stuff like human trafficking or child porn. The statement is vague.

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      hypothetically speaking, if someone blew up their office HQ, that would send a powerful message. of course, if you have the balls to do that, there are some other offices that would probably be much better targets.

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      To be clear, they’re talking about banning right wing people. Reddit is one of the most liberal platforms you will find.

      You can’t even talk economics on Reddit without being downvoted to fuck, or banned.

      I am a centrist, and I routinely had posts removed and got banned from communities for saying things from actual textbooks taught currently in universities.

      No one is attacking the free speech of the left unless it’s radical and advocating for physical harm.

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        Incorrect. I got banned yesterday for “Eat the Rich” and Luigi favoritism. I believe the post in question (you never know with a Reddit ban because they dont show you) was responding to someone’s post that mentioned the French Revolution with a Guillotine gif and “Git-r-Done”.

        Yea, apparently I was plotting murder or something by doing that.

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    Its so obvious Reddit is just swarming with bot users. Not sure why most users haven’t just come to Lemmy already.

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    I once got banned for “vote brigading” on Reddit because I upvoted a crosspost that was deleted later, so this comes as no surprise. They have been monitoring upvotes and downvotes since forever.

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        When one community goes in mass to affect the votes in another. E.g someone is doing a poll/vote intended to be private or limited to a certain group/community, and you link that to from somewhere else with the hope, or sometimes direct instructions to go vote on it in a certain way.

        That’s why reddit has cross-posts and the np (no participation, disables voting in the linked content) subdomain that try to keep the votes separated.

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      I got perma banned after i joined NAFO as a mod 2 bannes for petty reasons and then the third and final ban. Always waited for the other bans to time out

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    Nobody elected the mods or the admins. And the management has shown itself to be, at least, MAGA-adjacent.

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    reddit will warn users who repeatedly upvote calls for a violent revolution against the billionaire class and the fascist neo feudalist militarized police state enforced wage slavery and rent till death economics they have created to benefit their endless growth driven profits while ignoring upvotes of content that praise violence against leftists, women and other marginalized leftist aligning groups and ideologies

    There, FTFY

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        They are desperay obvious and its cringe. They were in full blast damage control censorship mode even before december 4th. I was VPN banned last summer just for saying that occupied indigenous people have a right to resist occupation by any means necessary as per international law in regards to palestine and IsNoTreal. So far ive jot been able to evade the ban even with a vpn. Wall street military and prison industry profiteers have become too confident and comfortable.

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          They ban for literally anything probably because their Reddit moderation is handled by AI. The simple fact that many reports = certain ban regardless of behavior is reason enough not to be in that cesspool

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            their Reddit moderation is handled by AI

            They also have a number of fascist mods who abuse their authority to arbitrarily ban anyone saying something they don’t like.

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              Oh for sure! I got banned for “inciting violence” when I called desantis “a wanna be fascist in fake cowboy boots” and it got spam reported by conservative snowflakes. There is literally no staying unbanned on Reddit if you have any form of moral compass or social awareness

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    Well, exactly the same can and is happening on specific Lemmy servers too.

    One of the vegan instances bans you if you downvote anything that speaks in favour of veganism. Not that I just do this out of spite, but there was this time where a thread about vegan cat food gained traction and I downvoted some comments that were really borderline. Ban within an hour.

    Same on that notorious star trek instance. Go ahead and put some downvotes on Discovery related posts, it will also earn you a temporary ban.

    So let’s not pretend that it’s only big bad reddit doing this.

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      Lemmy even has the option to disable downvotes, so they’re obviously using downvotes as some kind of purity test.

      Side note, there should be a way to soft block certain instances so you can see and interact with its federated posts but not send anything to the instance itself. You want to limit open discussion on your instance? Fine, but everyone else is still going to talk about you.

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        its sickening how they pretend to care about animals and nature by being vegan yet its just egotripping and blatant animal abuse. If they actually care about animals they should be the first ones denouncing vegan cat food.

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          It’s already bad enough that a lot of dry cat food in the market has grain (and the high cost of grainless alternatives) to even considering giving vegan food to a cat pffff.

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              Really? I give my cats dry food, but there’s no grain in it, all meat. Expensive, but worth it!

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                That reduces diabetes risk, but not CKD risk.

                Cats evolved from desert dwellers and often don’t like drinking water, they rarely do so in nature and get most of their liquids from their food. If a cat only eats dry food and doesn’t drink enough kidney disease is just an inevitability. Of our 3 cats only one of them drinks water regularly.

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                  Interesting. Well, I can confirm that my cats drink water, and a lot of it! One is nearly 13, the other 4, and they both drink multiple times per day.

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      if someone does that post it in yepowertrippinbastards and make a new sub on a different instance, id join, ppl can be made aware here

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      Its decentalised nature doesn’t get you removed from the whole network though unlike Reddit. You can always interact with other instances.

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      Plus side here is that people can move to another instance and start commenting right away as opposed to being shadow banned for a period in certain subs and having to build up enough karma to not automatically have every comment flagged.

      People aren’t stuck to the policies of instances they don’t agree with whether it be reasons for bans or what instances are blocked or whitelisted.

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      I feel like there’s a difference between various moderators power-tripping on their own little fiefdoms, and a site wide policy.

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        A little, sure, but from my point of view (which you are happy to disagree with), very little.

        Personally I am a big Star Trek fan. I was stoked to see there is an actual dedicated Lemmy server for it, with many communities focused around everything Star Trek. But I disagree with their admin/moderation so much I had to change my account to another server. At some point ended up blocking the whole instance because I just cannot keep myself to just reading what others are posting.

        So even if I can use another server, I cannot use those communities. Similar if I were a vegan and would not agree with what some of the more extreme users are posting.

        There are not many active alternatives for these communities on Lemmy.

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      at least here its more easy to just let them stew with eachother or for more sensible part of that community to just break off. in reddit its the site owner who ultimately decided how the site goes, here its the community itself. Though if majority of some community decides to just stick with some awful group, its quite bad for the minority that doesnt like the awfullness. But at least that is problem of our own making instead of what something some rich asshole decided and thus we can solve it ourselves too if we really want to. There is no way to unshittify reddit ever.

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      It’s way easier to do with Lemmy compared to Reddit. Because of its federated design, it’s trivial to subscribe to a stream of all activity in a community (posts, comments, upvotes, downvotes, moderation actions, etc) and do things when particular actions happen. Unlike Reddit, on Lemmy you can get a list of who upvoted or downvoted a post or comment.

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        Which I don’t have a problem with. Having vastly different moderation policies can create a walled garden, but there are instances where a walled garden is just preferable. See how askhistorians was handled. It’s better to have a platform that you can shape to your needs and the potential needs of your users. If it’s truly useless, then nobody would use it

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        It had its moments, but everytime id start to like it theyd pull some shit that south park would make fun of

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        cant believe that show went on five seasons, and it got worst every season too, and the obvious objective kurtzman was evident by season 4(female leads were the only sex left on the cast), the only likable characther, was michelle yeohs performance(you can see the acting is better than the others). Picard also was like that(the show couldve been good if done right, but picard(patrick stewart) seemed too low energy for the show.

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        Never seen but just cause I am in edgy mood today: discovery is utter garbage. They should pay hefty health insurance to anyone who has seen it to cover therapy costs and eye surgery.

        It’s so garbage that the dump trucks drivers get confused and arrive at people living rooms if they turn it on.

        The only fitting spot for it is inside the latrine but wash it out as carefully after putting this shitty thing down the drain as if it was an especially nasty hangover poop

        That was quite pleasurable to write

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          same here, never saw the series, just enough of the clips to know the seasons go through obvious cycle, evident of many other people posted, a big convoluted “danger” that ends up in the last episode of a season which is a letdown. rinse and repeat, also kurtzmans go-to for ignoring the criticisms by fans of previous seasons, by dropping the arc of the last season entirely, additionally. both picard and STD have lifted material they read on memory alpha and memory beta(non canon) wiki, which the NOVELS are part of.

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            I don’t know but I know that hating on franchises isn’t worth my effort nowadays aside from some short dopamine burst now and then. I have learned with Last Jedi that panta rhei and all, I can always have my own head canon which is mostly EU and TCW 2008 and maybe some other thing I like.

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      Yes, Lemmyverse will fragment, so it’s important to choose sufficiently permissive instances or even run your own.

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      It’s enough to just make new account every couple months

      It’s a good practice anyway. Fresh start every month feels good. Privacy is much better this way on such transparent site as Lemmy. You reset any mutes/bans/fame you might have acquired. It’s win-win

      +It’s not like Lemmy has some kind of insane profile customisation fluff or account bound rewards

      Also remember to have a unique username for each site for best doxx protection. I use this Osint site sometimes for lulz and there are people who have same PayPal id (with real name shown) as their Lemmy account name lol. Lemmy may be tame but if you browse any deep chan sites opsec is of paramount and admins are hostile actors deep down there too that WILL post your data. Here I kinda trust admins just a little so that accidental true IP reveal seems like no big deal.

      However one day you may sign up to the wrong instance or instance may change hands and someone may post your data to some chan like alt right pit. This is a danger of entrusting your account to small private operators that are complete strangers with unknown motivations

      Never ever use your true email on Lemmy

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        See my other comment. That is not really the solution since you will simply get banned again after a while, depending on how much you interact there. Unless admin/moderation changes, making a new account just gives you a bit of extra time using those communities.

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      The motives behind the actions of these groups are vastly different though. A corporation silencing anti-establishment speech is not equivalent to lemmy moderators abusing authority in their micro-feifdoms. Still frustrating of course but the reasons and effects are quite different

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        True, can’t argue with that. I am maybe a bit too pragmatic when I say, I don’t care about the difference because the outcome for me as a user is the same.

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      gross, even STD is being defended here, who is paying for these shills. nutrek is such a badly written/show franchise right now.