• Zagorath@aussie.zone
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    Hey Microsoft, if you want me to upgrade to Windows 11, you could start by removing the completely arbitrary requirement to have TPM 2.0.

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      I had an HP Zbook Workstation. With TPM1.x Initially said get ready for W11, then months later meeage: this model fails TPM 2.0 requirement, CPU OK. I used HP firmware tool to upgrade from TPM 1.x to TPM2.0. A recheck with W11 a few months later: TPM OK, CPU no good. Last month the message about the system not being upgradeable to W11 disappeared and replaced with a link: to learn more about W11. Wtf. Do they even know what system requirements they need?

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      That’s become quite the handy “don’t upgrade this to Windows 11” switch to have.

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      Sadly, Microsoft doesn’t need to do anything to have you to upgrade to Windows 11: you just need to buy a new device in the mainstream market. Aside from building your rig from scratch, of course.

      SteamDeck is a good example: Microsoft didn’t do nothing to promote the handheld PC gaming industry, even if Valve shown that their free and licenseless OS proved to be the best one… most OEM deliver Window’s only PC handheld, because they are afraid to lose the market segment of those who pirate PC games.

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        If any of those who pirate PC games are reading here: for now all my pillaged goods are working fine on Steam Deck and on Desktop Linux.

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          So you have to do anything different? Install wine, or special install requirements?

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            I’m running Nobara, so the basics like wine, Nvidia drivers … are already set up OOTB. There are multiple ways, but i like the way Lutris does it:

            • Click on “Add a game”
            • Select “Install Windows Game from an executable”
            • give it a name, if you use the name identifier as it is used on lutris.net you get the box art automatically
            • click through, select install/prefix directory, select setup.exe file
            • install as normal, install on the c: drive (only thing to note is if the game is using stuff like .net or vc runtimes then don’t install them and just remember which ones you will need)
            • If runtimes are needed: run “winetricks” to add those, if you want to install patches: use “run exe inside wine prefix” (both are in the menu next to the Windows-logo Button)
            • Play Game

            Heroic Launcher’s installation is a bit more streamlined, but i found Lutris can do more stuff - i don’t know if i would have managed to mod my (owned) Battletech installation (BTA3062) so easily with Heroic. (involved setting a bunch of Envvars and dll overrides)

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      I think when the time comes I’ll give Windows 11 ltsc a look which has tpm be optional. Less bloatware too.

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        Use Rufus to install it, you don’t need tpm. It also debloats it

        It’s a good OS, despite what the Linux teenagers on Lemmy would have you believe

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          It’s important to note that if you do this, chances are that feature updates will not install without a TPM.

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      I also seem to have a fully housebroken windows 10. I know my PC has TPM, so it should be compatible with windows 11, but so far, it hasn’t shit inside

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    Got one yesterday. I’ve already made up my mind that I’m likely to switch to Linux Mint on my current PC and run that till it drops dead. Because I’m sure as shit not messing with or upgrading my three year old PC over something asinine like a TPM module. I don’t even want a new Windows. I like my PC just fine the way it is.

    If Microsoft thinks they can force me to Windows 11, I fucking dare them. I switched to Mac before and I’m not afraid to switch to any other OS either.

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    Hopefully this nonsense doesn’t affect the LTSC version. Using that has been a breath of fresh air - still Windows, less crap. Not even the store is installed by default.

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      It doesn’t. I doubt it will in the future, but its possible.

      I still would recommend moving to another solution though.

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        Long Term Service Channel. It’s a branch that is used by devices that may not be recommended to be on the latest version of Windows, for example ATMs. When the device needs to essentially be consistently reliable and not received feature updates that could potentially break it.

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          Basically, yeah. Features don’t come out often but you still get security updates on the regular which is what’s important. Things don’t change which means things don’t typically break.

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        Windows has ease on its side. I’ve never had to learn CMD to achieve basic tasks in Windows and that’s one of, if not the biggest point against Linux.

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        In my opinion, not entirely, the underlying NT kernel seems better designed than Linux.
        Windows 7 was very good, later versions were turned into crap.

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            From what I read through the years, NT actually had design behind it, while Linux is a pile of improvised hacks roughly following an “ancient” 1970s design.
            Of course that might be wrong, and I’m using Linux almost continuously on last year and it seems solid, the only annoyances being installing stuff, and things designed with 1970s mentality that forces the use of the terminal.

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              Try OpenSUSE it has Yast2 GUI GTK. Graphical manager for packages, one-click install of downloaded RPMs from web sources. Full GUI for all system settings, services, etc. No CLI needed.

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    Blah blah blah

    I always laugh at these comments. Edge is fantastic, same with 0365. But yeah libre is soooo much better.

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      365 is helpful, but feature parity between app and web app is not perfect, and files done in web have compatibility issues when somebody opens on app version. Also have had issues on collaboration where somebody left their laptop open with autosave on, so all my changes and corrections kept getting overridden whenever their system autosaved. Terrible implementation.

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        I run the team that does MSP and cloud services for 1000 people. MS365 works mostly great. This community is somewhat mistaken what non technical, gamers and business users value.

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      I personally pretty much stopped using Word Editors, and wouldn’t use a proprietary one if I did, but I recognise they’re still pretty important for the majority of people.

      I worked with a company that used O365 last year. Was kinda underwhelmed. Desktop Apps still don’t really work well with simultaneous editing of a document, Web Apps don’t have all the features of the desktop versions (didn’t matter that much in Word, but was annoying in Excel).

      I think that the online collaboration implementation of Google’s Suite is still a lot more seamless. O365 Desktop and Web stuff feels like a weird attempt to mix two separate products.

      For most use cases I’ve seen, you could probably give the user any modern office suite, whether it be proprietary or open source, and they wouldn’t mind too much.

      Independent of all privacy concerns, I personally just don’t like Edge’s UX, but I recognise that it’s a serviceable Browser.

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        I don’t think your experience is what most people experience. The vast majority of sharing issues is education on role and user based sharing.

        If you understand the difference between a kink that works for everyone and the difference between a view only and edit permissions then it works just fine.

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    Lolol just upgrade.

    MS has to constantly deal with this shit from users who refuse to install a damn patch.

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      Windows 11 from Windows 10 is not installing “a damn patch”.

      Also Windows 11 is terrible. Along with Edge WebView2, the entirety of the O365 suite now (see Edge WebView2), etc.

      An upgrade would be wiping the machine to install Linux or buying a Mac.

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        Not only that, but hundreds of millions of PCs can’t ‘just upgrade’ because Microsoft has arbitrarily blocked them from doing so without resorting to hacks in order to bypass those blocks.

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        Edge webview2 is used by some non Microsoft things as well, so I have to unblock it occasionally while it fucks my low bandwidth connection.

        And it somehow unblocks itself occasionally, and is the only thing to have ever done that which is wild, but there’s probably a simple reason for it that idk. It still doesn’t deserve internet privileges 99% of the time.