• Allonzee@lemmy.world
    5·
    6 hours ago

    We literally spend most of our lives fighting over fancy pieces of paper we’re deluded into valuing more than one another, talk about a waste of time.

    The unexamined life is not worth living. In the US at least, we are discouraged from asking the questions that can provide us some semblance of meaning based on what we actually value during our brief existence, because considering the big questions about the nature of being distract us from collecting more fancy pieces of paper for the master’s next penis shaped space rocket.

    IMHO, the ability to ask and really feel the importance of why is precisely what makes our existence more meaningful than an ant’s. Rejecting philosophical inquiry and living a life of mindless acquisition and gluttony makes one about as sapient as said ant. You’re just following someone else’s script, and that someone usually has an agenda of maximizing your productivity and consumption with that script, so your life is more their life to spend than yours to experience at that point.

          • kamenLady.@lemmy.world
            8·
            1 day ago

            Bonus Facts

            Manuella “Ya Kid K” Komosi was the lead vocalist on Pump up the Jam and most other Technotronic songs, but she was not in the video or on the album cover, which instead featured Zairean-born fashion model Felly lip-synching the lyrics. Felly had nothing to do with recording the song, and didn’t speak English. Bogaert used her to establish an image for the group, even if it meant some awkward miming in the video. Around the same time, C&C Music factory did something similar when they had a model pretend to sing the parts of Martha Wash on hits like “Gonna Make You Sweat.” Snap! also used a fake singer in their video for “The Power.” When Technotronic toured with DJ Jazzy Jeff and the Fresh Prince, Felly didn’t come along - they were fronted by their real vocalists Ya Kid K and MC Eric.

            • MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net
              2·
              23 hours ago

              I had the soundtrack to the second Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles movie on cassette when I was a kid. There was a Ya Kid K song on it.

              This was approximately three years after the debut of Belgian techno anthem Pump Up The Jam.

      • JayleneSlide@lemmy.world
        5·
        1 day ago

        Ya Kid K’s Congolese accent definitely has some of that marbles-in-the-mouth Staten Island sound. I was also surprised to learn she wasn’t from the Burroughs.

  • TheTechnician27@lemmy.worldEnglish
    351·
    1 day ago

    Eh, I dunno, I think philosophy can be pretty cool.

    • Logic and epistemology give us the tools to create proofs and algorithms, and it’s basically the foundation of modern mathematics.
    • Having the tools to communicate and understand concepts in ethics makes society more secular (because ethics aren’t just handed down from on high) and hopefully more humane.
    • Metaphysics I feel again moves us more toward secularism because it gives us ways to reason about the universe other than just “some big powerful boi did it (and he conveniently thinks you should give me money)”.
    • affiliate@lemmy.world
      9·
      1 day ago

      the math/philosophy overlap in set theory/logic makes me uneasy. the closer you get to it, the more the idea that “math is objective” starts to fade away. also pretty surreal to be learning philosophy/taking things as given in a math class. especially because you spend a lot of time proving that certain things are true, but you don’t ever say what it means for something to be true.

      • kaffiene@lemmy.worldEnglish
        2·
        6 hours ago

        Math and science all have a philosophical core, it’s just that most of the time you don’t need to question it, so it’s easy to forget about it. Which is fine

          • SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone
            2·
            8 hours ago

            Godel’s second theory of incompleteness states that a formal system cannot prove its own consistency

            I think that’s as close as you can get to “math is not objective”

            • affiliate@lemmy.world
              1·
              6 hours ago

              before gödel’s theorems can be formally stated, you have to make a lot of assumptions about axioms, and you have to pick which kinds of logical rules are “valid”, etc. and that all feels way more dicey to me than the actual content of gödels theorems.

              i definitely agree that gödels theorems can help to undercut the idea that math is this all knowing, objective thing and there’s one right way to do everything. but to me personally, i feel like the stuff that’s very close to the foundations is super sketchy. there are no theorems at that level, it’s just “we’re going to say these things are true because we think they are probably true”.

    • Wogi@lemmy.world
      10·
      1 day ago

      Philosophy at it’s core can be cool, informative, and even critical.

      Most philosophy is fancy bullshit.

      Just like anything else creative with a low barrier to entry, 90% is crap. The rest may be corn

    • yesman@lemmy.world
      3·
      1 day ago

      Logic and epistemology give us the tools to create proofs and algorithms, and it’s basically the foundation of modern mathematics.

      Not that I disagree, but logic and mathematics have a rocky relationship. We thought we could marry them forever with set theory, but when they asked if anyone objected, Bertrand Russel stood up.