Feeling like taking a vacation.

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    When you’re ready, you should see a bookshelf. Start messing with the books to send a message to your daughter and maybe she will help you.

    Prerequisites: daughter

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    Literally, impossible. To exit the event horizon of a black hole, you’d have to travel faster than the speed of light. We know for a fact that anything with mass cannot travel at the speed of light. (And anything without mass MUST travel at the speed of light) Once you cross the event horizon, you’ve been entirely and irreversibly separated from the rest of the universe.

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      It’s not even about needing to exceed the speed of light. Once you cross the event horizon, spacetime around you is so warped that “out” doesn’t exist anymore. Point your ship in any direction and fire up your FTL engine; it doesn’t matter. No matter which way you try and fly your ship, you’ll be getting closer to the center. Once you cross the event horizon, there is literally no way out.

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        I love how mind bending it is imagining what lies inside a black hole. Everything we know about physics may essentially go right out the window beyond the event horizon.

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        Well, there’s the hypothesis of a “naked singularity” whereas if enough charge or spin could be added to a black hole, the event horizon, aka, the black part of a black hole, could just vanish. This would expose the singularity at its center but its just a hypothesis. Or better yet, a thought experiment at best. This wouldn’t eliminate its mass though.

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    You wait for it to reach a critical mass and explode. Might take a little while.

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          That’s a hypothesis though, right? They haven’t detected any yet afaik (which the article could make clearer in its introduction).

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            Yeah, it mentions it at the end under the “Experimental observation” section.

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              Yes, I know, but realistically, many (most?) people just want brief, general information, which is what the introductory paragraph is for, no? So I’d argue it should say “hypothesised” or “predicted” somewhere in the, ideally, first sentence.

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                It does say that it is a “model” and “predicted” in the first paragraph.

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                  Okay, might have worded that better. It says “The radiation was not predicted by previous models” and “is predicted to be extremely faint”, not “it is predicted to exist” - and also “[it] is many orders of magnitude below […]” which sounds like a statement of fact. I realise this may be nitpicky but I don’t know if people who don’t know anything about the subject would interpret that as “we don’t really know if it even exists yet”.

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        More or less. In my layman’s understanding: Black holes ‘evaporate’ slowly through Hawking radiation, losing mass as a function of their surface area (simplistically, particle/anti-particle pairs ‘pop out of nothing’ near the event horizon, one gets swallowed up the other escapes, this means a net loss of energy, which has to ‘paid’ by the black hole losing mass, think E=mc2).

        Since a black hole behaves (geometrically) like any other sphere, the proportion of its area to its volume will grow as the black hole loses mass (i.e. it will have more and more relative area the smaller it gets), this process speeds up over time thus ending in what I guess you could call an explosion (more a whimper than a bang, to borrow a phrase).

        Part 2 of your question: We don’t know.

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          Wouldn’t the hawking radiation need to be a higher rate than the black hole is absorbing matter?

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            Yes, the effect is extremely tiny and easily offset when a black hole is “feeding”.

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            Which will eventually happen to all black holes because the last things remaining will be black holes, so there would be no matter to absorb.

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              Which begs the question, what happens to the estranged particle that escapes the black hole from hawking radiation.

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                They’ll wander forever through an ever expanding space, meaning they probably won’t ever come across a different particle.

                Eventually everything will reach equilibrium, aka the state where nothing moves anymore because everything it could react with is too far away to cause any reaction.

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      With super massive black holes, you could pass the event horizon and not even know it. To you, everything would remain relatively (no pun intended) comfortable. You could live for a couple days, falling towards the singularity before the gravitational gradient becomes enough to rip you apart, thus ending your life.

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        Now I have a doubt. Could you have a stable orbit around the singularity but inside the event horizon? Or is the orbit speed above c?

        Maybe you could live a comfy life there.

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          I would assume that anything that lies within the photon sphere could never have a stable orbit. The photon sphere is the point that light itself orbits the black hole and its 1.5x the radius of the blackhole itself. Anything closer to the singularity than this boundry is doomed to fall into the singularity as it would require faster than light speeds to maintain any stable orbit.

          I wonder if anything could actually cross the photon sphere at all without getting vaporized by potentially billions of years of accumulated light that got stuck orbiting the black hole.

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            Hell, forget the photon sphere, even. Know that jet of energy black holes are thought to sprew out at their poles due to the material falling in to them? Imagine what that material is doing inside the event horizon. Whatever it is, it’ll be pretty violent, enough to call the moon slamming into the earth “relatively peaceful”. It would probably be more pleasant hanging out in the core of the sun than even an AU away from a black hole’s event horizon (and I mean on the outside).

            Also, the event horizon is where light cannot escape. The “spacecraft event horizon”, or the orbital plane surrounding a black hole where a spacecraft couldn’t escape it is going to be much farther out, unless we can figure out ftl travel.

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            If I recall correctly, the photon sphere orbit is unstable, so there may not be a ton of photons there. “Unstable” in this sense means that photons in adjacent orbits tend to diverge away from the photon sphere orbit rather than toward it.

            For Schwarzchild holes, the lowest circular orbit for massive objects is at 3 event horizons, which is above the photon sphere. There are unstable circular orbits down to 2 horizons. Black hole rotation reduces this altitude for prograde orbits asymptotically down to 1 horizon.

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      That’s actually not that hard, if we’re talking about a rotating black hole that’s sufficiently large (like the supermassive ones are).

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    Space time gets so curved that literally every direction around you is the center of the black hole.

    You look forward? Black hole center.

    Behind you? Center

    Up down? You guessed it

    From your perspective, the center literally is the only direction you can go, deeper.

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    Have 5D future humans put you in the tesseract, then you exit seeing your daughter on their deathbed while you barely aged a day.

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    don’t fight against gravity by trying to fly directly towards the universe. Instead, fly parallel to the universe until you are out of the black hole’s pull, then angle back towards the universe.

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      since black holes are incredibly common in the universe, if everything that went into a black hole came out the “other end” from a white hole, then it would logically follow that white holes would also be incredibly common. however, while white holes might exist, nobody has ever observed one, or found any mechanism capable of creating one, or evidence suggesting that they even exist, or have ever existed, or will ever exist. meanwhile, we have directly imaged the accretion disk around a supermassive black hole.

      one definitely exists, the other is firmly within the realm of theoretical only, where it is expected to stay indefinitely.

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        To be fair, we only recently actually saw a black hole, and before that, it was just assumed to exist by its gravitational effects.

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      Exactly, when you’re going through hell, keep going. Maybe you’ll find a white hole in the other end with a new universe to explore.