• germanixx@lemmings.world
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    “Guys let’s invite the pretty actress instead of a real feminist scholar or activist. At least we can rubberneck to look at her ass”

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      She’s literally been a major feminist activist and UN ambassador for over a decade.

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        The fact they hire an hollywood actress and fashionista instead of a proper scholar tells you how seriously they take feminism lmao

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    Just treat people equally. That’s it. Thats all anyone has to do. Male, female, any eye color, skin color, hair color, tall, short and anything in between. Just give all the same baseline and judge based on attitude and actions from there.

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        Honestly this is the answer. You can look and also be respectful to the person at the same time. That is what both feminists and others want. Just not the bigots, they don’t know what respect is.

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        No. It’s simply egalitarianism.

        Feminism is focused one a singular aspect, which in itself can destoy what it seeks to do by placing the topic itself as seperated from all others.

        I mean yes, it’s necessary because there are severe issues, yet the overarching attitude I often observe when singular aspects of egalitarianism are grabbed to focus on get quickly out of sync and even turn into what they fight.

        I’ve seen sexist feminists who are not aware that they are sexist. Driven into it by the frustration of inequality which is slow moving and sometimes even moves backwards. Frustration can corrupt.

        Gender inequality is a symptom of the broken societies we live in. Alleviating symptoms doesn’t cure the core problem.

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    It’s not disrespectful to look, and that’s all we can see these people doing from these two frames. Hell, it’s just about involuntary to take a glance.

    It would be disrespectful to stare or make comments/rude gestures, but I doubt that’s what’s happening here.

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      Kind of a LEMMY question. When I scanned comments in Voyager, this comment had 2X upvotes the top comment had. How is that? Is there a setting on my end that instructs the app to show most upvoted comment at the top?

      And to the topic, I picked this thread of comments because, yeah.

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      Also depending on the person they may not even be looking for aesthetic or sexual reasons. My paranoid ass involuntarily sizes everyone up for potential fights because I’m that fun type of paranoid.

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      I thoroughly support advancing the causes of feminism and women’s rights across the world, and would happily listen actively to what she has to say.

      But also Emma is pretty fucking hot. And that fit looks good on her.

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      She’s a moving object, our eyes are drawn to movement. She’s on the a stage. Most people in the room would be looking at her.

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      And a children movie actress lmao they wouldn’t invite real activist, no no, that’s boring, let’s invite the sexy Hollywood celeb.

      If anybody needed any proof lemmists are gross

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        Spoken like a true not-crazy-feminist who does not have a problem with straight white men and who thinks can tell a man’s sexuality by looking at him.

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          Foolish us. the traditional white male suit and haircut is how any gender that is fluid identify. how could we all miss that.

          Sorry your feefees got hurt that the attention was not on praising the white male at every given second of eternity. Not sorry.

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          That’s why I said “looks like” and not that it is. Sad truth is LGBT people aren’t often found in jobs like that… and it would be statistically unusual for most or all of them to be LGBT.

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            That’s why I said “looks like”

            Neither gender identity or sexuality is defined by appearance. That’s not any better. All you’re doing is prejudicially perpetuating stereotypes.

            I have a feeling if someone said that a person “looks gay” or “looks trans”, you wouldn’t defend them responding to being called out for saying that with ‘I didn’t say they are, just said they look like it!’

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              Neither gender nor sexuality is defined by appearance in general, but the straight white men do present themselves in a specific way.

              You are right to say that this might not be the straight white men’s club, but you would be wrong to say that the straight white men’s club does not look like this.

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              Looks like as in appears, that’s how it presents which I could have worded differently. How likely do you think it is that they’re part of the lgbt community? And what insignia can you see indicating they support the community?

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    Just to be clear, feminism isn’t about not being attracted to beautiful women. It’s perfectly human to admire someone’s beautiful features, regardless of anyone’s gender. Feminism is about respect, equality, rejecting prescribed roles and limitations placed on gender, and acknowledging and addressing privilege and patriarchal systems of society.

    Notice none of those things means you can’t still like the sight of boobs, butts, legs, abs, biceps, or whatever gets you excited. It does mean that you shouldn’t reduce someone’s value to those things, nor should your excitement about seeing someone’s beautiful physical attributes become a problem for them, like if you harass them or catcall them over it, or worse.

    But Emma is well respected, not only as an actress but as an advocate, and she’s there to represent a great cause to the UN. They can respect her and her work and message and still think she’s a knockout at the same time. They’re not mutually exclusive, and that’s a pretty relevant part of feminism, divorcing worth as a person from sexuality and attractiveness.

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      Okay, but shouldn’t her speech about feminism be the reason these men are watching her, rather than her appearance?

      Yes, she’s beautiful, I get that. But in this case, she’s speaking about feminism and eaquality, and the first reaction is, “Oh wow, she looks good,” or “Damn, that ass.”

      I think that’s disrespectful and undermines the message of her speech. She’s not there as an actress, but as an advocate for women’s rights.

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        Arguably, the meme maker is the one framing a still picture as a sexualized moment and thus is the one creating the sexist narrative from a still that we don’t have the context on.

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          Ahh I miss that 4chan meme. This whole thread is and it applies to about 95% of what’s posted on social media now. Back then it was Markov chains doing the heavy lifting, now GPTs.

          From looking down the accounts of people who actually post memes in /c/politics, their whole accounts look AI generated to blatantly manipulate users.

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            Ahh I miss that 4chan meme.

            I like all the variations of it but my personal favorite is this one :

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    A true gentleman knows how to appreciate a beautiful person without giving themselves whiplash.

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    🤷 they may only get one chance to look at Emma Watsons ass in real life… They took it. Doesn’t make it right… I’m just saying.

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    Admit it, you did it too. Nobody would’ve noticed where the politicians were looking if they hadn’t gone back and paused.

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      Especially since the video shows they weren’t staring at her ass. You actually have to pause the right frame to get that misleading shot.

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        One doubts you get a position of public prominence if you have a tendency to stare, kinda off-putting to the general public.

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    Some people just haven’t had the experience they just wish and wish but nobody will play with them. Others just play too much. I wish people would just be more open. Imagine a world where you could hear everyone’s thoughts like in the movies, but you would have to live with that in real life and so would everyone else.

    You would have to become very open to everyone’s real imaginative parts. Everyone would also have to be more conservative with their thoughts near others.

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    Bunch of gross old men in charge of things are gross: more at 11.

    I’m glad you dudes are waking up to our reality tho :) welcome! We bake cookies! (Sometimes, if we feel like it.)

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      Well…

      Do you really believe that when you’re, say, 70 or so, that you won’t have sexual desires anymore?

      I’m sorry but it’s weird to me that when we see a group of grand mothers all together gawking and drooling over a young muscle pool boys, it’s all cute and yeah baby, go for it! When a group of guys do it, they’re old creeps?

      It’s a double standard, of course. And yes, by the time that you’re 70 you too will in part still feel like you’re twenty and if you see a young beautiful woman walk by, you WILL look, maybe even stare. If said young and beautiful woman is also world famous and dressed in a nice and accentuating dress… I mean, come on, really?

      I get it, this is about feminism but ffs we’re all still human. Everyone and their neighbor would gush over Emma Watson but just because btheae are a bunch of older guys its creepy?

      Just because these guys are obviously not the target demographic for Emma Watson (or are they? Loads of women are into that too, talking from experience) doesn’t mean that they don’t get to enjoy her looks by looking

      If anything you want to talk about why there are only old guys there

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      You don’t know the greater context of it. Itsnhardnti be liberal when everyone constantly telling you how shit you aew

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      gross

      I haven’t heard that word since I was… 9?

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        Regardless of biology, the mental age/maturity is usually somewhere around there for those who continue to use it unironically, in my experience. It’s just one step away from “yucky”, lol.