During a Tuesday hearing at the 9th Circuit U.S. Court of Appeals, the DOJ urged a three-judge panel to issue an emergency stay of a lower court order and allow the Trump administration’s deployment of the California National Guard to continue in Los Angeles — going so far as to argue a president’s federalization of militia can’t be second-guessed by the courts, even if the chief executive mobilized forces from all 50 states and Washington, D.C., simultaneously.

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      My state says I have to pay a tax, do live fire training, get 2 background checks and wait several weeks before I can arm myself.

      Guess we will just die.

      Oh and I can’t carry it virtually anywhere. Maybe to the range if its unloaded and locked and ammunition stored somewhere separately.

      Did I also mention I am limited to 10 or less rounds?

      I was going to add something else but there is a kiaboy with an autoswitch glock and extended mag tapping on my window while I type this.

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    quashing protests, will eventually leader to larger protests and then uprising, and maybe a rebellion eventually.

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      Yes, they do, because it will distract from the US joining a war in Iran, and from all of trumps other crimes.

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        The foreign wars arent the point. The foreign wars are a means to an end

        The end. Is being able to isolate one’s self from the rest of the world. Enjoy perpetual dictatorial rule through martial law. And rule your corner of the world like an absolute monarchy. The other parts of the world can deal with their own regional warlords like Russia and China

        The foreign wars. Like starting a war with Iran. Are likely going to be used as a vehicle to declare martial law in the USA. And once that happens. Trump is never going away until death takes him

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        I thought the war in Iran was to distract from the protests? What are they going to do to distract from the rebellion then?

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    That’s fascism, folks.

    Arm yourselves.

    Also, maybe don’t do something dumb like vote 3rd party or abstain from voting next time around. Y’all were warned. Now it’s happening.

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      What about all the votes that were lost, removed, not counted? The way the elections, gerrymandering and more, Its all rigged.

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        liberal vote scolding

        Oh have you guys come up with a cute name that lets you dismiss it easier?

        It isn’t just liberals that are pissed at people like you, and your characterization is bullshit.

        Unless the new definition du jour of “liberal” is “someone who was able to understand their own electoral system enough to vote for Kamala Harris instead of handing power to literal fascists”

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            What do you think the goal of elections is? Just to “win”? This very post demonstrates military force against our own citizens–are you ok with that? I think it’s something we should all be opposing.

            We’re all losing when we lose fundamentals of our democracy and our right to protest.

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              It’s ironic of you to ask me what the goal of elections is. As far as I can tell, democrats worship the status quo and civility. I used to think that democrats didn’t utilize political power when they had it, because that would be “tacky” or something. Now I’ve seen enough to realize that they don’t really want to change anything. If you keep voting for people like that, what can you possibly hope to achieve, aside from just to “win”?

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      Oh right, blame the voters in a rigged election. Makes total sense.

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        Yup. Until they take responsibility for the impact of their ego stroking and try to do anything at all to help, we’re not going to let the people just shy of collaborators forget it.

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          Especially when so many continue to double and triple down rather than just accept that they fucked up.

          At least the “Arabs for Trump” folks did a pretty much immediate about face. Still awful that they existed in the first place, but at least they had the wherewithal to walk it back when reality hit them.

          So many people here just refuse to, and will call your progressive beliefs into question because you don’t bury your head in the sand like them

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            How do you read “take responsibility for their impact” and then jump to “solely to blame.” I swear people just hear what they want so they have a reason to be angry.

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              Are they to blame, or are they small enough to ignore?

              Which one? I get that you want both. But you only get one.

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          What can your party do to appeal to them next time?

          Hint: it’s not “jettison marginalized groups” or “move to the right.” That got us here.

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            You mean saying “I would do nothing different from Joe Biden” wasn’t enough to sway voters to vote? Wow what else could she possibly have done?

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            I would have thought eating the same gruel every day would have prevailed over eating saute shit a la fascism. As it turns out, Americans aren’t good at binary decision making and some like to be imaginary revolutionaries.

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    The DOJ attorney emphasized that “sustained mob violence” in response to ICE raids is “no ordinary civil unrest,” claimed that it is ongoing, and asserted that such violence is “expressly aimed at preventing federal officers from enforcing federal law,” supporting Trump’s federalization of the Golden State’s National Guard.

    That’s just a lie, isn’t it?

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      Fuck these feckless attorneys who are willing to do this shit.

      They should never be able to work again after this. At best. Many belong in prison.

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      That’s standard Republican strategy. A lot of the cases that ended up in front of the Supreme Court are straight up manufactured. In the case of the lady who refused to create a website for a gay wedding, they contacted the guy who supposedly made the request and he’d never heard of it before. Republican operatives basically looked up a gay guy in San Francisco and used his details in the website’s contact form.

      Despite all that, the courts happily took the case and ruled on a complete fiction. Same thing happened in the case of the coach that forced his football team to pray.

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        Same with the student loan forgiveness. The one alleged plaintiff, MOHELA literally wanted nothing to do with the lawsuit and were just used so it appeared legitimate.

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      Even if it were true, that does not amount to rebellion. Nobody is trying to overthrow the federal government.

      Yet.

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      Well, it’s mostly true. I mean this isn’t normal civil unrest. This is the people being fed up with a government trying to use fear as a weapon against it’s own people. And the mob violence isn’t generally preventing federal officers from doing what they want, it is in response to it. There is some mob shouting preventing some federal officers ftom doing what they want.

      But issue at hand is that the law is very vague about the quantity needed to trigger the allowance of using the national guard. By just reading it, ICE could send a single agent to arrest 5 people in a facility that has 500. If the people stop the arrests, then it meets the written requirements. It ludicrous though to interpret it that way of course. But since it was written so poorly, we are at the mercy of the courts.

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    This is dictatorship. It’s mild only because no one is fighting back. The moment someone tries the gloves will come off.

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      That is how they want everyone to feel so there isn’t much fight back. However, I think if there was, and the gloves came off, it may also split Republicans and even Trumpers.

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      It doesn’t.

      When you’ve got control of the armed services of the government. And you tell the opposition “we’ve got the guns. Fuck are you going to do about it”. Law becomes paper. And the only thing left is the law of the jungle. In other words. War

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    So much to unpack there…

    So the bestest president evah now caused a rebellion? Did that ever happen before to any president? Oh yeah, under trump 1 there was January the 6th, instigated and orchestrated by king Cheeto

    And now there is another rebellion?

    I mean, it’s demonstrations but seeing that distinction is hard for smooth brain idiots

    Then telling judges that they can’t say no because else they can’t stop a rebellion? I mean, you STARTED it, if you want to stop it’s really easy: STOP BREAKING THE LAW!

    And stop telling judges they can’t do their job

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      The keyword is rebellion…

      But it is not really about current protests … it is to have all lights on green when there actually IS a rebellion cooking so the response can be swift and far beyond proportions.

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    yea, that’s how fascism works. “judges” are there to protect the state from the people, not the other way around

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            Russia

            Except they’re only interested in supporting factions that keep perpetually causing chaos.

            Russia can’t fight a war to save its life. So it needs opponents like America incapacitated and out of their imperialist affairs in Europe and Asia

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          You’re right. You are willing to rebel in order to keep your richest citizens from having to pay taxes. My mistake.

          EDIT: Also, to preserve slavery. You’ll take up arms for that, too.