Elon Musk <- For the people filtering the name

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      12 hours ago

      Maybe. But he was seen as a competent person. I remember when SpaceX started testing the “reusable” rockets that landed themselves. He was a lot more “popular” back then

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      16 hours ago

      If you get into the actual comic books, you’ll find out that Tony Stark is regularly portrayed as a sex pest, a substance abuser, and an outspoken fascist.

      But, unlike the real Elon Musk, I don’t believe he’s ever been written as “full of pee”. Incidentally, ketamine abuse does result in bladder ulcers that leak urine into your body until you are quite literally poisoning yourself with your own urine.

      Just something to think about.

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    16 hours ago

    I’m man enough to admit that I thought he was the closest thing we had to Tony Stark even though I knew at the time he wasn’t really that close to Tony Stark, and now I know just how wrong I was. Damn.

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      12 hours ago

      Round Iron Man 2 coming out and his cameo, I kinda felt that way too. Some 2-4 years later that feeling was entirely gone.

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    20 hours ago

    I remember in the very early days not getting the full ‘hype’ of “MUSK IS SO SMART”, but I enjoyed him as a “This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb becomes incredibly wealthy - he wants to throw money at space and technology. That’s neat.”

    His PR guys must’ve done a good job at keeping the worst of his tendencies behind closed doors - or at least further than most casual observers would look. Around the time of the ‘pedo guy’ incident it began to unravel for me. Curious that a social media addiction undid all the work of his PR team.

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      20 hours ago

      I think he genuinely changed as well though. Sure, some of the stuff people believe was obviously wrong in hindsight, but his unhinged tweets just weren’t a thing 10 years ago.

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        19 hours ago

        Yeah, he was always an idiot, but I remember reading a super interesting article about how he accidentally radicalized himself when he changed X’s algorithm. He tweaked it to be far right, and radicalized himself because he’s one of the most active users on the platform. FAFO.

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        18 hours ago

        The way he removed the original founders of Tesla and have himself the title of founder says otherwise, he was never a nice human being.

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        19 hours ago


        Here’s the Blue MAGA hindsight.
        And this gets deleted by the mods here for ‘no politics’.
        As if the post itself isn’t.
        Hypocrites

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      19 hours ago

      I enjoyed him as a “This is what happens when some ordinary dweeb extremely privileged racist becomes incredibly wealthy

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    22 hours ago

    Musk was already a notoriously lying grifter 10 year ago.

    It’s only naive fanboys who were too immature be able to set aside the natural human tendency to look up to famous people and/or did not had the life experience to recognize and be suspicious of salesman bollocks (whether decorated with techie terms or otherwise) when they heard it that didn’t suspect the guy was something else than what the adoring fans thought.

    It’s not by chance that Musk’s fanboys were mainly young adult and teen techies.

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      20 hours ago

      I was never a fanboy, but 10 years ago I had hope that he and his companies would make the world a better place.

      I never looked much into him as a person, but the promise of neat electric cars and humans living on Mars made it seem like the world was on a decent trajectory.

      I was obviously naive in hindsight, but on the surface everything seemed to be fine.

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        19 hours ago

        Well, a decade ago I had hope too, but also already felt the guy was fishy (because he already had a history of overpromising and under-delivering and in the areas I was an expert in, I had spotted him outright lying) and so was skeptical about his promises and his companies. Also, having been involved in Tech Startups, my expectation from people in his position and his language were already negative since the Startup World back then was already dominated by scam artists with a salesmanship or Finance backgrund for whom Tech was a vehicle for self-enrichment, not by idealists who loved challenges or the actual Tech.

        Also by that point I had already spent a good period in Investment Finance and could recognize a certain style of bollocks a mile away.

        I wasn’t aware of just how much a shit person the guy was, but all my instints told me he was a sociopath who would only ever do anything better for the World if it made him more money than not doing it.

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        19 hours ago

        All of his companies are complete garbage. Cars are a disgusting privilege literally destroying the planet. Colonizing space is a grift that does absolutely nothing for regular people on earth. Paypal jfc… Etc.

        Never had a chance of changing the world for a better place. Didn’t even try.

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        20 hours ago

        The actual public meltdown started there, but before that there was already a history of sales bullshit with unachievable promises with things like the hyperloop and solar tiles, which for those who were paying attention were enough to mentally classify Musk as part of the “Fishy and possible scam artist” category.

        Musk hasn’t really changed his swindling strategy much in the last couple of decades, he just started going beyond the script and sharing his actual opinions (which turned out to be “I’m a member of the Fascist elite” crap), possibly because the very cult of personality around him of all the fanboys made him think people loved him for him, rather than for the highly curate tech bro image (back when tech bros were seen as Heroes rather than Villains) he projected.

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    Sexually harassing his employees hit the headlines in 2016; rumours before that. Inserting himself into the Thai cave rescue and the “pedo guy” slander was 2018. Hyperloop was 2013. No Lidar on Tesla. If you’ve been paying attention he’s been outing himself for a long time.

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        23 hours ago

        Now you mention it, the Mars thing was - and continues to be - another unscientific pipedream. The examples I gave were all plainly stupid and/or disgusting at the time.

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          Well now that we know that he’s an idiot, I have to look back at the things that I just took for granted. I didn’t talk to any rocket scientists 10 years ago so I just believed him when he owned a company that was showing results. Hindsight is 20/20

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    20 hours ago

    Was more or less aware of who he was until the cave incident where all his worse tendencies came to light with enough reach to get to me.

    Then some research later, I was aware of tech bros and their ilk.

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    I guess that tracks because Thanos is stupid as fuck.

    Trying to solve the resource problem by killing half of the universe just doesn’t help. In a couple of decades, the population would be back to the previous number.

    He could just snap his fingers and make those missing resources appear. Whole empty planets for people to live with abundance etc.

    It feels like he thought of the problem for like one minute and decided to take the easiest short term solution possible.

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      he was doing it to prevent the celestials from emerging from planets killing the population. im guessing he probably thought of that already that alreayd, adding more natural resources would accelerate the emergence. also seems the stones is not powerful enough to affect celestials, or primordial beings(death, GOD, angels,etc), otherwise he wouldve just used it to kill them. he is stupid in that having the 6 stones, why dint he conjure about things that can kill celestials.

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      24 hours ago

      I thought his threat was going to be that the universe either gets itself under control or he does it again?