USA is like that old class mate whose life only seems to be getting worse every time you meet them.
By their own choices
I know that the event itself really haooened but I don’t see a gofundme for the woman. Could this be rage bait?
They went with the Christian Crowd-Funding platform GiveSendGo. she has raised 700k+ of the 1m goal
Good that they’re losing the shame and outing themselves. It’ll make things way easier when the Nuremberg part comes. Just like in the 1930’s onwards.
Yes, don’t just be a covert racist - say it openly and proudly to the world. That way we know who you are, and any retard defending you and making up excuses will have a harder time with it.
Do you honestly believe the United States would ever hold Nuremberg style trials? I think we’ve been too far gone for a long time, I just hope I can flee the country in the next 5 years.
Can we donate to the kid?
There was one set-up by the NAACP, however the family has turned it down. They are actually pursuing charges as the woman followed their 5 year old while yelling slurs at him, and he is autistic. She claims he stole her diaper bag, however other witnesses have said this wasn’t true, he began playing with toys that were out, and, apparently owned by her, which prompted her to do this. Following the kid, while doing this likely makes this harassment. In this particular case harassment of a 5 year old, special needs kid, and because of the slurs, a hate crime enhancer to the penalties. So she could actually be in serious legal trouble. The family said they would much rather pursue criminal charges. Also, the man who recorded, and outed, her was charged with some sort of sexual crime, i think, involving a minor. The case however was dropped in a manner that means that the case was so bad it wasn’t even worth the time to consider it. So he didn’t do it. He is also being harassed, and this may turn into a civil lawsuit based on things the lady said online that may cross into incitement.
However, there is an NAACP fundraiser they do support, that will go to legal costs, instead of their general income.
Around here the generally accepted rule is that toys lying around on the playground can be used by all kids. They just have to return them. Is this different in the US?
If someone is a racist ass racist it seems to be.
Luigi’s defense fund has doubled this if it makes you feel better.
Not even the slightest. Going off on a five year old kid and gets this. Fuck America it has to burn to the ground.
Fuck America it has to burn to the ground.
Come on, man. Surely you can’t be that ignorant to blame an entire nation of over 300 million people for this.
The fact it is a significant fraction of his defensive fund is the depressing thing. But thanks for trying!
That bitch is now a money piñata. Now that she has something to lose, suing her stupid racist ass to oblivion is WORTHWHILE.
Trash country. Trash culture.
Only way we’re going is down.
After WW2, People asked “How could the German people ALLOW such things to happen”
THIS this is how it starts… Baby steps
“How could the german people allow such things to happen”, says the nation that allowed such things to happen to native americans.
This isn’t a baby step. This is someone saying, “Let’s murder all the Jews” and all the other Germans throwing money at them for saying it.
Just when you think Americans can’t get any lower, they do it. Soon you’ll see that they make Russians look like Boy Scouts.
I mean, name a thing the Russians are doing and chances are Americans have already done it
Yeah…burn it all, nothing valuable left there.
Not to worry, Trump is on it.
Some people REALLY don’t deserve money.
God Rochester MN is a weird cult of deranged rich white people.
The parents of the child are investigating that bigot, and may be pressing charges with the help of the NAACP. I hope they get that pig’s entire GiveSendGo purse.
NAACP are raising money for legal funds for the family and community outreach programs.
Ooo look at Mrs. Deep Pockets getting cleaned out by the lawyers! They’re going to have to sell the RVs they just bought.
Not sure what they hope to achieve, I’m not American and may be unfamiliar with specific laws, but isn’t it covered by freedom of speech? Would be very hard to argue and prove reparations for emotional damage to the child.
Shaming her seems like the most likely outcome.
I’d think the platform she used to raise funds may be more of a viable target. Can’t be rewarding this behavior, I imagine it could be breaking some laws against anti-minority organizing. Could be argued as an anti black gang by sourcing from so many people.
No. This is not covered by freedom of speech.
Hate crimes are not freedom of speech. Freedom of fucking speech is for press to be able to report on fascism without being afraid of execution. It’s so FUCKING co opted it’s blindeningly idiotic and gives me idiotism for just fucking reading about this idiotic take over and over… Why the fuck fuck fuck would anyone think calling a child racist shit is “technically” legal way the fuck are you ingesting in your blood to think these things??? In any country like even in fascist countries they make sure to pretend to understand hate crime is bad against their own at least
You need to look at the difference between a ‘hate crime’ and a ‘hate incident.’ They’re not the same thing. There could be eye witness evidence or other recordings of a crime too, but in that case it’d be a matter for the police rather than the family.
Generally, when a person or group sues someone else, they’re seeking for damages. Such as loss of property, medical bills, reputation which causes loss of work etc. It’s hard to argue what the damages here would be.
I believe the police are also looking into the matter though, so something could come of it, including money to the family.
So you’re not American, not familiar with our laws, but confident enough to write six paragraphs and then admit that the police are looking into it and something may come of it?
My original point was that I’m not sure what the NAAPC are planning to achieve, I hope the police can discover enough through eye witness accounts to try her in a criminal court but from what I’ve seen there’s no criminal act; just a shitty person being shit. What scares me the most is the support.
It makes me so angry. Suing people for hating your skin color is an incredibly American concept. All laws are “interpretable” and in all other first world countries, there is no issue with prohibiting and punishing idiots that hate others for their skin color, and it works also to remove those idiots. There’s some serious playing stupid energy in your nation
The US has laws against threats of violence, inciting violence, and hate crimes. Simply using slurs would be covered by the 1st Amendment. Her demeanor in the recording was overtly aggressive, and coupled with the use of a slur could be considered a hate crime. That’s the reason for the investigation.
“Free Speech” doesn’t mean words can’t be the mechanism by which another crime is committed.
If you ask someone to kill your wife, you aren’t arrested for speech, but for conspiracy to commit murder.
I agree, but what other crime was committed? I didn’t see anything.
To be totally fair, that’s only because you’re a moron who’s arguing about things you don’t understand. Moron.
You’re allowed to be racist or to openly support racist ideals in public. You aren’t allowed to intimidate someone based on their race. Intimidation isn’t protected speech any more than fraud is.
You can charged with assault for language that is used to threaten or harass someone, especially when directed at someone’s race, religion, gender, etc, which can elevate it to a hate crime.
Nope because shouting racist shit in public is a hate crime how can these things actually be hard to understand, what are your thought pattern to reach the goal that it should be okay to shout racism openly and why would it? Ever? It’s a hate crime because it leads to deaths for idiotic irrational reasons. What is so hard to understand, at what point did you confuse “openly” disliking pancakes or the president with openly fucking disliking everyone with other skin color??? like a idiotic shameful sad excuse for a person just openly hating a skin color??? Is that ever the same as openly opposing a war or something??? How is this confusing for you people
Learn some reading comprehension before attacking someone.
I’m specifically saying that using language to intimidate someone based on their race isn’t protected speech and can be considered a hate crime.
You are allowed to openly support racist ideals in public. Verbatim what you said. It is wrong. It is a hate crime
There’s a bit of another layer to it. The n-word is used as a credible death threat in America. It is a word that has been used to dehumanize and declare a person can be killed and lynched without consequence --because that is the legacy of our country and that word. People calling people n-words historically have been able get away with actual murders–and they know it.
It’s the same way a Nazi saluting is someone demonstrating they don’t value human life and support genocide. But it is still outlawed in Germany and Austria because the action carries with it much deeper implications there.
Assault.
Possibly, it needs another source of evidence though. In the video the man asks: " Did you chase him? Did you try to hit him?" The woman replies “Yes”, but it’s a compound question and easily argued she was saying yes to chasing to get back whatever the child took.
Threat of violence is a crime and in this case clearly racially motivated so would be a hate crime. But I think it’d be tough to prove in court with only the video evidence and something for the criminal court to discover, not the parents or the NAAPC.
I’d like to again state this woman is pure garbage and the people that gave her money are probably worse.
Assault doesn’t need physical contact. Just yelling at him threateningly and chasing is more than enough to qualify. If she hit him it would also be battery.
I agree, but imagine a situation without race involved. If my wife has something taken and chased a child to get it back, then got charged for assault, it’d be laughed out of court.
This could be classed as assault, depending on intention, I think the investigation is looking into her character to prove the intention. Obviously she has a shot character, but they may need subpoenas from judges etc to look at phone records for evidence. It all takes time. I’m sure she’s getting her just desserts eventually.
I also heard the child may have had disabilities, which adds a whole new layer.
I don’t mean to be contrarian for the sake of it and I agree with people’s feelings. But the law works in both ways.
Not “free speech”. Could classify as a hate crime.
Using a slur is unfortunately protected speech. You can walk into the middle of a supermarket and shout the N word and not be arrested. Calling someone a slur is hate crime, and is absolutely not protected. If your manager calls you a slur, you can sue him. And other similar examples.
Sure, but if you’re having a long enough interaction with a child that you are able to use the slur enough times to be reported as “repeatedly”… There’s an argument that you’re harassing them. Which is something you can sue over.
A hate crime needs a crime. Your example involving workplace is different due to worker protections. I don’t think just calling someone something is a crime though. You’d have to prove something like ‘intent to cause a riot’ or something, which is really hard to prove. Also the only damages you could sue for are emotional, which are really hard to prove; unlike your workplace example where damages would be a lot more tangible due to loss of work for example.
That’s a good point, I should probably mete out my understanding a bit better.
I hope nothing but the worst for that horrible family and all their money
*Except the kid who doesn’t deserve to grow up around all that hate. I hope they find a way to not have their parent’s hatred become their own… I know that’s naive, but it would be nice
Beat me to it. Fuck them. I wish nothing but misery for that cunt and those who donated.
I think we’re in the timeline where good things happen to bad people forever. I hate this place.
As I get older I realize that karma really doesn’t exist. And I have to be okay with that. Although that’s not what it’s sold to us every day in the media or even in social circles.
good things happen to bad
And to top it off, vice versa, too.
I feel like trashy people usually waste their money on stupid shit, but I may just be wishfully thinking
The fact that anyone would donate money to this is almost poetic proof of your point.
I can see what you mean
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Windfalls of cash often wreak havoc. Let’s hope. But really, what could happen to them that’s worse than ending up as themselves, which already happened.
And here if I got a windfall id probably use it to do car repairs and get new boots. That’d just be a couple hundred and I’d burn out my stupid shit list at about a thousand. How do folks burn through money so easily.
I think the problems arise when there are multiple people involved with different ideas and guilt trips. “My important needs list should take precedence over your stupid shit list” and that kind of thing. From what I understand, LeBron James was miserable for years because every person from his early life thought he basically owed it to them to buy their mom a house.
I would stop working with just 100k dollars here.
I had a colleague ask me if he won the lottery, how much could they gift me to retire immediately? Of course a small windfall would be great to set up future stability, but I told them 5 million to give all work up immediately.
