This is kinda disconnected from the reactions of right wingers. Most of them are happy right now to “burn it down”. Which has been a lot of the reason that many people have supported trump from the start. Sure, they misdirect their anger towards the wrong people. But they haven’t felt the effects of the tariffs yet. Most of them are just enjoying seeing the stock market drop.
Most of them are happy right now to “burn it down”.
That’s because they are catastrophically stupid people.
I tried watching some fox in an attempt to understand the other perspective but I just don’t, my summary of the 15 minutes of fox was.
- Show clip of democrat politican giving normal speech, not bad not great just a boilerplate speech.
- Proclaim the event was sad and embarassing for that politician without really saying why.
- Claim said politician has certain negative view on subject that was never even mentioned in the clip.
- Rapid fire multiple more strawmans of things the person in the clip never said or even mentioned.
- Claim they’re also biassed by bringing up tangentially related event that happened when the republicans were in fact the ones in power.
Just a note that this appears to be an AI generated image. Note the dude up front with an arm coming out of his back. Unless thats a whole jamon iberico that he has stuffed under his jacket, in which case I’d stand corrected.
No that’s just how MAGATs look, it’s an unfortunate side affect of being inbred.
Can’t see the forest through the trees, can’t smell the shit when it’s on your knees.
The beautiful people, Marilyn Manson.
Ironic, since Manson is also a shit human.
He’s a shit human for reasons mostly unrelated to his political takes. Though I haven’t heard him recently. He could have gone the Russel Brand route.
Don’t look at those characters too long or you will enter a Lovecraftian AI-nightmare.
IDK, I kinda like the power pole hovering off in the distance.
You don’t like how little Shub-shub in the front there looks?
I think he’s kinda cute.
Cute like Carpenter’s “The Thing”…
I think one of those guys has an arm growing out of his back
The better to bare arms with.
Wym, he’s got long sleeves
purge
It’s A Cult.
Like, for realsies.
Nope. Just capitalism doing capitalism things. No need frame the issue as some sort of mass psychosis or cultural pathology when it’s clear that this devolution is a response to deteriorating material conditions. Calling fascism a cult is an ideological evasion. It’s the liberals’ convenient way of characterizing trump as an anomaly as opposed to a predictable symptoms of capitalist crisis. Liberals do this because it allows them to attempt to explain fascism without acknowledging that capitalism itself gives rise to such movements.
There is no Trump cult; there is only textbook, predictable fascism - which leftists have been warning liberals about for decades only to be laughed away. Reap what you sow.
100% a cult.
My family would bend over backwards to end abortion access, but when I send them buckets of articles showing how people are harmed by Trump… well, either its fine or there is nothing they can do about it.
Some are getting fucking tattoos!
It’s a cult. It just so happens that fascism is a kind of cult. Cults pop up in all sorts of circumstances, and capitalism is one of them.
So let me get this straight, you’re saying that economic systems are cults? Your characterization of humanity is that we went from hunter gatherer cult, to agrarian society cult, to feudalism cult, to capitalism cult? This is the bizarre type of analysis that shows up when you refuse to do any sort of class-based analysis. You can’t just throw the word cult around anytime you speak about systems that large swaths of people take part in - either willingly or unwillingly.
Yeah, that’s not what I said at all.
Okay, then enlighten me. Is capitalism an economic system or a cult?
Amazing. You can win every debate by assuming your opponent’s position and then attacking that.
Your question isn’t even relevant. Cults are perversions of normal social dynamics. They pop up as control structures inside many economic systems, including capitalism.
Edit:
For anyone who runs across this and wants to learn, see the BITE model and high demand groups. Cults come in many forms, and don’t even have to be religious. Multi-level marketing companies took the BITE checklist and turned it into a business model.
I can certainly see ways capitalism would cause more cults to pop up. Those MLM schemes being an obvious one.They also tend prey on people who have few other social links (see the loneliness epidemic) or are under a lot of distress. However, they are not exclusive to capitalism by any means. In fact, the Marxist-Lenninist idea of a vanguard party makes it particularly vulnerable to cult-like behavior, and this is reason alone to reject that whole branch of leftism.
I’ve plopped the other poster on my ban list, because someone who strawmanned your position so hard does not deserve your time and is clearly not interested in learning anything. They also ignored another poster who gave information on how cults work. So I have no idea what they posted below this message and have no intention of checking.
It’s that too! But it’s also a cult. People who study cults for a living confirm the heck out of that.
I recommend this lady as a starting point if you’re curious. She’s former SpecOps.
I still have a hard time understanding how people come to support Trump. Like what led people to become like this? I can’t wrap my head around it. It’s like supporting someone who is bullying you.
sabotage of education systems, propaganda and tribalism
I still have a hard time understanding how people come to support Trump. Like what led people to become like this?
It is never just one reason, it is a myriad of different reasons compounding and mixing with each other. Intentional dumbing down of population, genuine economic anxiety, wealth inequality, algorithm corralling people into their own information bubble leading to polarisation, etc. It is important to put yourself into one’s shoes and think why they think that way. You don’t have to agree with the viewpoint you disagree, you just have to understand. Understanding is the key to defeating extremism.
Don’t forget about the opposition party abandoning large swaths of the country because they’re too hard to win in.
If only one team shows up, then that’s the team you’re rooting for.
Yes and no. There are places that are 90% tribalistic and won’t vote for the opposing party. But more often than not, there are party flip in regions that used to be reliable for one party, but switch to another party. That is what happened with former industrial manufacturing hubs in Appalachia and Midwest when they used to vote Democrats, but switched to Republican thanks to jobs outsourcing. The working class weren’t provided with alternatives. Their people left, communities abandoned with no prospect, many became depressed and resort to substance abuse leading to both personal and generational trauma. These communities are ripe for emotional manipulation by demagogues.
I take great pleasure in seeing Trump paraphernalia being removed from people’s homes and cars.
But I honestly can’t believe there are still people proudly showing it. Flapping their ignorance and foolishness around for everyone to see. Cover your shame!
People don’t seem to vote for a candidate any more.
They vote against the other one…
And that does seem to be something both sides are guilty of. They don’t know what they want. They just know what they don’t want.
The fact that I even say “both sides” is a sign the political systems have failed.
That’s the way it has always been.
They don’t know what they want. They just know what they don’t want.
So simple, but that explains a lot.
Big part of it is his supporters are detached from reality. They have a faith-based belief system.
A lot of his supporters are born Republicans. Their parents voted Republican, and their grandparents. To them voting Republican isn’t a choice, it’s what’s expected of them. They don’t participate in the Republican party, they just consume it, like American’s consume everything else. Those people will never once question why they’re voting that way, it’s what their parents did, their community does, and it’s what their children will probably do too.
"I must isolate you, and save you from yourself " "Swinging to the rhythm on a new world order "
AI image.
Arguments I’m seeing online are; it’s his genius plan to devalue the US dollar so it remains the world currency. When it’s devalued enough he’s use dropping tariffs as a negotiation tactic to get world wide free trade agreements.
The problem? The US dollar is already the reserve currency and there’s no competition for that role. The Euro comes closest in terms of the amount of physical money they have out there in circulation (1.5 trillion) and the US is still a trillion physical notes ahead of them (not to mention accepted as currency in places far outside of Europe)…
World reserve currency is just not a role any other currency has the reach and volume of notes to do.
Meaning Trump is just devaluing the dollar for no good reason.
And the way he’s talking about annexing other countries and changes opinion and policy on a dime is not a good sign to step into whatever scheme he finally unveils.
This has been Republican fantasy for decades, don’t just assign blame just to Trump.
People need to be more understanding of Trump supporters. It’s like they say, you can’t understand a man until you’ve walked a mile with a monster third arm growing out of your back. liberals will never understand the struggle.
Three arms!?
Like a gene stealer cultist!!
The only good bug, is a dead bug!
It’s funny how they’ve created a buffer against reality.
“DoWnVoTeS mEaN yOuRe OvEr ThE tArGeT” … or maybe you’re making an idiotic point?
“AnY CoNsErVaTiVe WhO DiSaGrEeS WiTh TrUmP iS a FaKe ‘FeLLoW cOnSeRvAtiVe’”
Fiscally conservative now means losing unimaginably large amounts of money.
Whoever made this meme doesn’t understand Republicans at all. It’s ‘Lets Go Brandon’ and ‘Thanks Obama’
No, not at all.
They’re rejoicing, because the cleansing fire of Atom is at hand!
The emperor is purifying us!
still a cringe use of gen AI
