• rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
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    4 hours ago

    So… let’s appease the aggressor, yeah? By that logic, every war ever should have ended instantly by the defending side surrendering.

    Yes, I’m “blaming the guy who started it” because he’s also the guy who can end it. Putin can literally end the war with one order. But he will not, because he’s not looking for a peace deal. He’s looking for annihilation, and that has been the case since before 2022.

    Your victim blaming logic must have required some astonishing mental gymnastics to pull through. It must be quite comforting to live in the world where you can stop wars by just asking the people who are launching missiles at your cities to pretty please stop.

    • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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      32 minutes ago

      By that logic, every war ever should have ended instantly by the defending side surrendering.

      Where would we be if the Germans, the Brits, and the Russians hadn’t stood their ground in 1914? I’m so glad nobody surrendered until 17 million people had been slaughtered. And without that glorious cacophony of violence, who would have so resented their defeat as to kick off WW2 two decades later?

      Christ, can you even imagine what kind of hellscape we’d be living in if the 30 Years War had only lasted two weeks? Or the Seven Years War hadn’t burned down half of French Canada? Or the French had bowed out of Vietnam gracefully rather than handing the baton to the Japanese and then the Americans over the next fifty years? What kind of nightmare would we live in if the KMT and the Imperial Japanese hadn’t torn Korea to shreds?

      You’re so fucking right. What we need is more wars! Qatar and Saudi Arabia should start bombing each other. Iran and Israel need to open fire. How long can the good people along the US/Mexico border endure this agonizing peace?

      Your victim blaming logic must have required some astonishing mental gymnastics

      Its so incredibly simple to say “Stop killing people”. Sue for peace at the first opportunity. End the violence as soon as possible. Quit building all these fucking war machines to begin with, while you’re at it. The logic is so straightforward and crystal clear. Go back to 2021 and negotiate a ceasefire on day one. The peace dividends alone will pay for whatever wrongs you feel one side or the other have inflicted.

      • PugJesus@lemmy.world
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        23 minutes ago

        And without that glorious cacophony of violence, who would have so resented their defeat as to kick off WW2 two decades later?

        Coming from a “Poland and the Soviet Union should have just surrendered! 😭” Nazi sympathizer, lmao.