• Nangijala
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    16 hours ago

    Last I checked, most people who voted for trump voted for him because they actually thought he would fix the economy. Only a fringe cares about identity politics.

    While I personally believe people who voted for trump were naive at best, it is very disingenuous to pretend like they all voted for him because they hate trans people. Most normal people don’t give a fuck about that shit. They just want to live and considering how chaotic the election was for the democrats, it makes sense that more people put their trust in the candidate who was there from the start.

    It’s a very boring answer, and it is not really an excuse for the current state of the US, but reality is often a lot duller than whatever narrative we like to cook up in our little heads after spending too much time on Twitter.

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      11 hours ago

      Not my fault you haven’t been paying attention. Eggs were the excuse du jour at vote time. I’ve experienced or witnessed right wing bigotry of various sorts (not only homophobia and transphobia) for forty-five fucking years. (And I’m subtracting the years when I was too young and dumb to see it for what it was.)

      It’s bigotry all the way down, and no one under the age of seventy can remember a time when the Republican party stood for anything else, no matter what they claim. Look at their policies. It’s all just how they are dressing it up this decade.

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        5 hours ago

        Sure, but not all the people who voted for trump were Republicans and it is too simplistic to say that they all voted for him because of hate towards minority groups. I’m not saying that no one voted for him because they hate x-group. Just that most people most likely voted for him because they thought he would fix the economy.

        I don’t think most people who voted for him expected that he was gonna go completely apeshit like he has. I sure didn’t think he was gonna be this insane. And no I didn’t vote for him and no I’m not American and no I can’t just mind my own business because American politics is literally shoved down everybody’s throat all over the world.

        But I will say that acting like it was all about bigotry for every single person who voted for him is too simplistic a take, like many other people in this thread have also said.

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          5 hours ago

          Well, I can only go on the magas in my life. I have a lot of them, and they are all bigots, in addition to whatever other justification they claimed.

          (Setting aside their ahem naivete at thinking he’d fix the economy.)

          I don’t think most people who voted for him expected that he was gonna go completely apeshit like he has. I sure didn’t think he was gonna be this insane.

          There’s been a nonstop drumbeat of people including Trump himself telling everyone that he’d go EXACTLY this apeshit, so I don’t know why.

          Sure, but not all the people who voted for trump were Republicans

          They all knew who Republicans were though.

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      12 hours ago

      Your first paragraph is patently untrue the entire right wing media ecosystem is nothing but identity politics grievances and culture war bs

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        5 hours ago

        That logic only works if you believe that every person who voted for trump is a bleeding heart republican who hates diversity. Objectively, that wasn’t the case.