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  • hperrin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    21 hours ago

    It’s deterministic. I can exactly duplicate your “art” by typing in the same sentence. You’re not creative, you’re just playing with toys.

    • SlothMama@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      3 hours ago

      That’s actually fundamentally untrue, like independent of your opinion, I promise that when people generate an image with a phrase it will be different and is not deterministic ( not in the way you mean ) .

      You and I cannot type the same prompt into the same AI generative model and receive the same result, no system works with that level of specificity, by design.

      They pretty much all use some form of entropy / noise.

      • hperrin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 hours ago

        It’s literally as true as it can possibly be. Given the same inputs (including the same seed), a diffusion model will produce exactly the same output every time. It’s deterministic in the most fundamental meaning of the word. That’s why when you share an image on CivitAI people like it when you share your input parameters, so they can duplicate the image. I have recreated the exact same images using models from there.

        Humans are not deterministic (at least as far as we know). If I give two people exactly the same prompt, and exactly the same “training data” (show them the same references, I guess), they will never produce the same output. Even if I give the same person the same prompt, they won’t be able to reproduce the same image again.

        • SlothMama@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 hours ago

          I do actually believe that everything, including human behavior is deterministic. I also believe there is nothing special about human consciousness or creation tbh

      • hperrin@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 hours ago

        Ok, here’s an image I generated with a random seed:

        Here’s the UI showing it as a result:

        Then I reused the exact same input parameters. Here you can see it in the middle of generating the image:

        Then it finished, and you can see it generated the exact same image:

        Here’s the second image, so you can see for yourself compared to the first:

        You can download Flux Dev, the model I used for this image, and input the exact same parameters yourself, and you’ll get the same image.