The platform posted about the milestone this afternoon, which it crossed after Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes ordered a ban on Elon Musk’s X yesterday as part of an ongoing feud with the platform. Apparently, enough are headed to Bluesky to drive its iOS app to the top of the Brazilian App Store, as TechCrunch writes.

Bluesky has gained a million new users in the last three days.

The platform posted about the milestone this afternoon, which it crossed after Brazilian Supreme Court Justice Alexandre de Moraes ordered a ban on Elon Musk’s X yesterday as part of an ongoing feud with the platform.

Apparently, enough are headed to Bluesky to drive its iOS app to the top of the Brazilian App Store, as TechCrunch writes.

  • JaggedRobotPubes@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1354·
    2 months ago

    Non-twitter is fine in any form. Real progress is gonna be going to Mastodon, although that’s hamstrung by user-unfriendliness.

    • Sadsquatch@lemm.eeEnglish
      272·
      2 months ago

      user-unfriendliness.

      I can’t really disagree with this, since I’ve personally seen folks make a casual attempt and bounce off Mastodon, and it comes up enough online that it feels like it has to be true, but at the same time I’ve got this reflexive skepticism since I’m an absolute idiot and managed to figure out how to have a good time on Mastodon and really enjoy it. (I signed up in the spring of 2023, though, so can’t speak to earlier times.) I think I’m probably closer to the normies than the stereotypical tech-literate Mastodon person. So I really wonder what it is specifically that frustrates folks enough to just give up on Mastodon when I, an amiable doofus of the highest order, love it so much.

      I have additional Thoughts on cultural issues that might disappoint people who were expecting Mastodon to replicate whatever specific era of pre-Musk Twitter they yearn for, but it can’t *just *be that. There has to be some technical barrier a lot of folks are stumbling over, right?

      • SorteKaninAEnglish
        24·
        2 months ago

        I think I’m probably closer to the normies than the stereotypical tech-literate Mastodon person.

        Just from the fact that you are here, it is statistically likely that you are much closer to the tech literates than the normies. Can you search for a specific email in your email inbox? You’re already way ahead of many people. You are severely overestimating the technical literacy of normal people.

      • MoogleMaestro@lemmy.zipEnglish
        18·
        2 months ago

        In reality, mastodon doesn’t achieve the same dopamine hit by design. This is both a good thing (less addictive, more conversational) and a bad thing (less retention, more opaqueness in statistics) depending on why you want to use or don’t want to use social networks.

      • Facebones@reddthat.comEnglish
        5·
        2 months ago

        I never used twitter anyway so idk I never got into Mastodon. Didn’t help that the few people I thought to follow basically pulled the “yeah this is cool #fucktwitter buuuuuut everyone is still on Twitter okbaiiiiiii”

      • danciestlobster@lemm.eeEnglish
        1·
        2 months ago

        I have a potentially really dumb question: how is mastodon different from the assorted lemmys and such? I originally thought mastodon was just another fediverse instance but now that I think about it I don’t think I’ve seen posts and content from others on a mastodon instance, either on .world or where I am now at .ee. is this just due to defederation with mastodon or is mastodon different in some way that I am missing?

        • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
          2·
          2 months ago

          Mastodon works more like twitter, several microblog posts that you only see if you search or check:

          • Latest posts of an instance;
          • The profile of the person posting;
          • Posts with certain hashtags;
          • Posts of people you chose to follow;

          Meanwhile, lemmy works more like reddit, easier to find “specific content”, with posts neatly separated by community/instance and easier to find/search/interact with in the future. It’s less about individuals and more about communities

          I think mastodon only interacts with lemmy as comments on existing posts, though there’s probably a way to post to a community from a mastodon client/site

    • tabris@lemmy.worldEnglish
      14·
      2 months ago

      Mastadon has definitely improved it’s user onboarding process. When I first tried, and failed, to use it 3 years ago it was awful. Signing up a year ago was a painless process. It may not be fully ready for the mainstream just yet, but it’s definitely getting there.

    • blindbunny@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3422·
      2 months ago

      While I agree with you. I don’t think Mastodon is user unfriendly I think of it as a normie blocker. That being said, bluesky is owning class social media, I expect the enshittification to start now that they have a million + users.

      • ngwoo@lemmy.worldEnglish
        823·
        2 months ago

        “Normie blocker” is just how abnormies rationalize bad design

        • SorteKaninAEnglish
          131·
          2 months ago

          Seriously yea. Same reason Linux user experience is generally bad. Unfortunately engineers usually make for poor designers.

        • blindbunny@lemmy.mlEnglish
          3019·
          2 months ago

          Except it’s not. It’s real easy to learn you can choose any instance you’re welcome to. Normies are the ones choosing not to learn.

          I do feel sorry for them because they’re probably going to get pushed to the next billionaires social media in the next decade to be exploited there too.

          Unless I’m completely missing something? What’s so bad about the design? I’m pretty dumb and uneducated and I dig me some federated social media purely because it’s genuine compared to the owning class social media.

          • SorteKaninAEnglish
            11·
            2 months ago

            I’m pretty dumb and uneducated

            Statistically speaking, the mere fact that you are here indicates that you are among the top percentages of tech literal people. This isn’t necessarily about intelligence or general education, but about tech literacy.

            • blindbunny@lemmy.mlEnglish
              45·
              2 months ago

              Brah, I’m not a normie. That’s why we’re talking on Lemmy. /s

              • SorteKaninAEnglish
                11·
                2 months ago

                That’s… exactly what I’m saying. Did you misunderstand my comment perhaps? Normies are not “choosing” not to learn, they just literally don’t have the tech literacy skills to easily participate in the fediverse. The fediverse should improve its UX to allow more people to participate.

          • xthexder@l.sw0.comEnglish
            6·
            2 months ago

            Personally I wish there was a better way to link multiple accounts together to say they’re the same person. When I switched to hosting my own instance, I basically just abandoned my old account, but I would have loved to link them to have the history there.
            We have the technology, it could be as simple as SSH keys, or like how bitcoin wallets are unique and don’t require internet to verify a match.

            Edit: I actually just discovered that this is one of the main feature differences between ActivityPub and BlueSky’s AT Protocol. BlueSky has “account portability”, and now that you can self-host it, I’m seriously considering setting it up. It would be really nice if we get an update that lets the protocols federate with each other. I think that BlueSky has said they intend to support ActivityPub federation in the future.

            • SorteKaninAEnglish
              1·
              2 months ago

              ActivityPub actually has a similar mechanism of a “Move” activity. There are just very few implementations that support that kind of thing.

              • xthexder@l.sw0.comEnglish
                4·
                2 months ago

                The main problem with that seems to be that the original server needs to be active to migrate. If the instance I’m on shuts down or is uncooperative, then my account history is gone. And for Mastodon, that’s even worse if you have a bunch of followers. These are all reasons I decided to self-host before I built up too much of a presence.

                • SorteKaninAEnglish
                  2·
                  2 months ago

                  Right, of course. I don’t really see any way any protocol can get around that though. If the original server is suddenly just gone, there is no way to tell it to move your account elsewhere. Hopefully such a situation should happen very rarely though.

      • mke@lemmy.worldEnglish
        3·
        2 months ago

        Purely anecdotally from what I’ve been reading online, it seems most younger folks hate Threads.

        Not necessarily because of privacy issues or social impact, mind you. They also think it just sucks to use, don’t like the UI, don’t like the content—which turned out to include a lot of people trying to build a personal brand and sell you things. Just like Instagram, where most users came from.

        Excluding content details, Mastodon fails similarly. Requires learning, unsatisfactory UI, more difficult to find and engage with content you like.

  • myusernameis@lemmy.caEnglish
    1241·
    2 months ago

    Bluesky has gained a million brazilion new users…

    I’m so sorry, it was right there. And yay for Bluesky!

  • mesamune@lemmy.worldEnglish
    891·
    2 months ago

    The fediverse is seeing an uptick as well. Elons enshitofication continues. Good for us I suppose.

  • Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zoneEnglish
    712·
    2 months ago

    I had originally been 100% against Bluesky because of Jack Dorsey, but when he got so steamed about them doing things like actual moderation and left entirely back to Twitter to pettily suck up to Musk, I really started feeling like maybe Bluesky might not be so bad after all.

  • Lost_My_Mind@lemmy.worldEnglish
    57·
    2 months ago

    What are blueskys current userbase numbers, mastodons current userbase numbers, and are they federated with each other?

  • I_Miss_Daniel@lemmy.worldEnglish
    502·
    2 months ago

    Downloaded it. Signed up. Replied to a post about rechargeable batteries. Account got restricted. Left.

  • yamanii@lemmy.worldEnglish
    33·
    2 months ago

    Blue Sky is the only one that allows porn and has no defederation drama, so I’m not surprised people went there. Instagram even put a banner telling people to try out threads but who would trust Zuck?

      • yamanii@lemmy.worldEnglish
        9·
        2 months ago

        Yes, and that’s why it’s hard for artists and their fans to leave, a social media that allows that and normal people posts together has massive visibility compared to enthusiasts site.

    • priapus@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      391·
      2 months ago

      Bluesky is built on an open source ActivityPub alternative called “AT Protocol”. However, Bluesky itself is not open source* and afaik does not yet federate with any other software. The company is a “public benefit corporation”.

      From my understanding, Bluesky has good moderation, to the point where Jack Dorsey (the Twitter founder) condemned it and withdrew from the project. That’s a big plus in my book.

      • Another commenter pointed out that some parts of it are open source, such as the apps and at least some parts of the backend. Im not sure to what extent the backend is open source.
    • lennivelkant@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
      11·
      2 months ago

      The latter has been taken over by ElMu and his shenanigans, the former was originally a Twitter-internal project for a decentralised social media interfacing protocol, got forked out from Twitter in 2021 (the year before Musk took over Twitter), has a lot of Ex-Twitter people on it and promises to do a lot of things a lot better than either Twitter (now X) and offer a little more resilience against things like moderator abuse.

      Curiously, that last bit is the first time I’ve seen a reasonable use case for Blockchain: Your content can be stored on arbitrary servers and migrated to others. Your identity is tied to keys that can be used to verify your content is actually yours. The info where the public half of the key and all your content are stored is recorded in a public, distributed, append-only ledger, where each entry verifies the integrity of the previous one. Thus, once you’re registered on that, no single moderator can arbitrarily ban you anymore. (Pretty sure there’s a hole in that logic, but I’m not versed enough to confidently assert as much.)

      Of course, there’s a caveat: To discover content, you need an index (“relay”) of all the content feeds. That takes some of the content aggregation load off your individual content servers and makes hosting them easier. However, it shifts the content moderation / federation power from the individual instances to the shared index: If a given index blocks your content, people using it won’t see your content.

      In theory anyone can host their own relay and everyone can choose which relay they want their content feed to use. In practice, hosting a relay is resource-intensive, bsky have a solid headstart and probably more resources, and their app also obviously uses their own index by default, so if you do want to create a “competitor”/alternative index, you’ll have a lot of catching up to do. They even state that expectation: “In all likelihood, there may be a few large full-network providers” src

      Which is basically a small-scale version of Google and Bing (and the AT Protocol Overview explicitly uses that comparison): Sure, you can make your own search engine, but if Google is the default everywhere, has a lot of storage and computing power to serve more requests and has way more indexed content, why would people use yours instead? Thus, if you want your content to be seen by many people, you have to play by the big relays’ rules.

      Much decentral. Very open.

      (I’m being snarky here, but I will give them the benefit of the doubt: They probably do mean to make self-hosting your personal data and content easier, and it’s easier for custom feeds to use single, big relays to draw from rather than doing the indexing and collation themselves. However, it provides them with a lot of leverage and just because they call themselves a “public benefit corporation” doesn’t mean I trust them not to start enshittifying for profit at some point.)

  • ArugulaZ@lemmy.zipEnglish
    14·
    2 months ago

    Yep, I saw them coming in. Works well enough for me… Brazilians make the best Sega Genesis games!

  • Clbull@lemmy.worldEnglish
    13·
    2 months ago

    Genuine question, is Bluesky worth using in its current state? Can it hold a candle to pre-Musk Twitter?

    I’m asking because I feel incredibly burned by the barebones state of Threads and I don’t really want to commit to another platform that doesn’t have its shit together. Threads still doesn’t have trending topics and functional hashtags over a year into its launch, and this is is shit that Mastodon had for years, despite Meta expecting to piggyback off of the ActivityPub protocol and be welcomed into the Fediverse with open arms.

    • Enthusiasticwhale@lemmy.worldEnglish
      2·
      2 months ago

      It’s more valuable than Twitter and threads to me… It really is only missing video and I’ll be fully sold and hashtags seem to work… I just don’t use them often

    • I Cast Fist@programming.devEnglish
      1·
      2 months ago

      From what I heard from a friend that’s pissed at losing access to xitter and begrudgingly made an account on bluesky, it doesn’t have trending topics yet, “How am I supposed to know what’s going on in the world?”

  • Liam Mayfair@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
    13·
    2 months ago

    inb4 in 8 years time “Greensky a.k.a. Trust Me Guys This is THE New Twitter Forever” gains a million new users in the last 3 days.