Does anyone still use scruboards and clotheslines for laundry? What about only using the sink for dishes (that one is a bit more common)? I feel automation already hit the bad things she is talking about.
Scrub boards, no, at least not in developed countries, if people wash by hand then because the fabric is fragile. Clotheslines, very much yes. Probably going to change with condensing wash-dryers becoming more common: Don’t use hot air so you don’t have to worry so much about the fabric, don’t use up additional space.
The American perspective on that kind of stuff is seriously uncommon, somehow not having a dryer is a sign of poverty but having a detachable shower head and duvet covers is unimaginable luxury.
So, you are saying that with a little AI added to her existing appliances, there will be even fewer reasons for manual intervention and more time for her art and writing?
I didn’t say anything about nothing in that comment, at least regarding AI.
Honestly I think washing machines are smart enough nowadays and I’m basically done doing dishes when I’m done cooking, anyway (what else to do but clean up your mise en place while waiting for things to finish?) so when I start eating there’s literally only the plates and cutlery to wash up which is nothing. It’s not that I can’t afford a dish washer it’s that I plain and simply don’t need one because I don’t have a rowdy 10-head household. Also cooking is art do you hear painters complaining about cleaning their brushes.
OTOH, seeing it on this kind of “laundry and dish washing” level is ignoring the deeper question, anyway. It’s not about laundry and dish washing, it’s about shit that keeps us from doing what we want. Some 15 years ago or so I read in the economist (practically the only thing I ever read there) that with the then levels of automation tech, we could produce western middle-class living standards with 70% unemployment. Why the fuck do artists need day jobs?
They’ve tackled part of the process. You still need to clear the table yourself, get rid of the large solid food scraps and saturated fats, load/empty the dishwasher. You then have things that need scrubbing, or material that can’t handle heat well, and those need to be cleaned manually.
I have a dishwasher, but find that I rarely use it because the time it saves is negligible compared to manual washing. The only time it’s helpful is after something like a dinner party where there are a lot more dishes than usual so space is the limiting factor.
Does anyone still use scruboards and clotheslines for laundry? What about only using the sink for dishes (that one is a bit more common)? I feel automation already hit the bad things she is talking about.
Scrub boards, no, at least not in developed countries, if people wash by hand then because the fabric is fragile. Clotheslines, very much yes. Probably going to change with condensing wash-dryers becoming more common: Don’t use hot air so you don’t have to worry so much about the fabric, don’t use up additional space.
The American perspective on that kind of stuff is seriously uncommon, somehow not having a dryer is a sign of poverty but having a detachable shower head and duvet covers is unimaginable luxury.
So, you are saying that with a little AI added to her existing appliances, there will be even fewer reasons for manual intervention and more time for her art and writing?
I didn’t say anything about nothing in that comment, at least regarding AI.
Honestly I think washing machines are smart enough nowadays and I’m basically done doing dishes when I’m done cooking, anyway (what else to do but clean up your mise en place while waiting for things to finish?) so when I start eating there’s literally only the plates and cutlery to wash up which is nothing. It’s not that I can’t afford a dish washer it’s that I plain and simply don’t need one because I don’t have a rowdy 10-head household. Also cooking is art do you hear painters complaining about cleaning their brushes.
OTOH, seeing it on this kind of “laundry and dish washing” level is ignoring the deeper question, anyway. It’s not about laundry and dish washing, it’s about shit that keeps us from doing what we want. Some 15 years ago or so I read in the economist (practically the only thing I ever read there) that with the then levels of automation tech, we could produce western middle-class living standards with 70% unemployment. Why the fuck do artists need day jobs?
They’ve tackled part of the process. You still need to clear the table yourself, get rid of the large solid food scraps and saturated fats, load/empty the dishwasher. You then have things that need scrubbing, or material that can’t handle heat well, and those need to be cleaned manually.
I have a dishwasher, but find that I rarely use it because the time it saves is negligible compared to manual washing. The only time it’s helpful is after something like a dinner party where there are a lot more dishes than usual so space is the limiting factor.
Yeah I think she could’ve used some better examples for things that aren’t yet automated. Something like taxes, or fighting with your insurance.
Those things are automated in most developed countries.
Almost all developed countries, barring one or two.
USA! USA!
I still wash dishes by hand but it’s mostly because my washer isn’t that great and I just haven’t bothered replacing it.
My in-laws live in the developing world so they air dry their clothing.