Science Advances report also finds people of color and low-income residents in US disproportionately affected
  • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.caEnglish
    568·
    5 months ago

    I really don’t get this love of gas stoves. You’d think electric stoves killed their parents.

    • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
      8211·
      5 months ago

      It’s because so many electric stoves fucking suck. A cheap gas stove is infinitely better to cook on than a cheap coil electric stove.

      While people will talk about electric stoves and reference newer glass top ranges, and induction cooktop that heat the pan directly, that’s not what 90% of people have. They have the shitty coil burners from the cheap piece of shit model the apartment complex installed.

      The price difference to get to a good electric means many apartment complexes and landlords won’t buy them, or it’s just cost prohibitive for current homeowners with the current economy when the current stove unexpectedly breaks.

      • onion@feddit.de
        82·
        5 months ago

        A cheap gas stove is infinitely better to cook on than a cheap coil electric stove.

        Yes but it’s not 1920. You can get an single range induction stove from Ikea for 50€.

        Here’s a gas stove for 300€: https://geizhals.de/amica-shgg-11559-w-gasherd-a1124476.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

        Here’s an induction stove for 300€: https://geizhals.de/gorenje-gec5a21wg-elektroherd-mit-glaskeramik-kochfeld-740524-a2838490.html?hloc=at&hloc=de

        • fishpen0@lemmy.world
          1·
          4 months ago

          Cool. Let me just convince my landlord to let me do that. And my next landlord and my next landlord and my next landlord

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
        31·
        5 months ago

        Honestly disagree. When I think of a stove I think of my landlord special electric and it’s fine. I really don’t get why people hate them. And yes I’ve used gas. And glass. Never induction though.

      • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
        87·
        5 months ago

        Okay, other than the coil taking longer to heat up and a bit of a struggle to clean if you don’t use the right stuff to prevent it becoming a nightmare. What’s the issue with them?

        Of course something cheaper isn’t going to be as good, so what it takes a few extra minutes to warm up.

        • halcyoncmdr@lemmy.worldEnglish
          136·
          5 months ago

          Exposed coil burners take a long time to heat up and don’t change temperatures quickly. That’s fine if you’re cooking something simple that you’re just throwing in a pan for a few minutes and don’t really need to adjust at all like a box of hamburger helper, but for actual cooking those are limitations that just don’t need to exist. There is a reason restaurants don’t use coil burners.

          Lowes currently has a GE gas range with 4 burners, a griddle, convection oven and even includes a range hood for $179.00 after a $20 discount. That’s pretty dang cheap for a much better cooking experience than a similarly priced electric.

          • SchmidtGenetics@lemmy.world
            1115·
            5 months ago

            There is a reason restaurants don’t use coil burners.

            I didn’t know people’s kitchens were restaurants… Yeah of course they have their limitations, they are cheap for that reason. I don’t expect to be able to cook every conceivable meal in my house, that’s quite the silly notion.

            Every unit has electricity, you know how much it costs to plumb gas to every unit…?

            Edit, I looked up the combo, it has a charcoal filter, that’s the entire problem with using gas Indoor’s……. it needs to be vented out. Thats why that’s unit is so cheap…

            You need to vent it outdoors, so not only is the gas plumbing more, now you need a better hood fan and to plumb it outside. So…. Which is cheaper and more affordable when you account for the necessary extras?

            Using your restaurant example, there’s a reason why restaurants vent outside.

            • Zekas@lemmy.world
              42·
              5 months ago

              Lmao they’re too addicted to that sweet sweet carbon monoxide to care

      • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.caEnglish
        16·
        5 months ago

        See this right here. It’s easy. It really is. So very easy. Can’t express how easy it is.

    • Nougat@fedia.io
      221·
      5 months ago

      There’s a whole lot of people for whom “electric stove” means “giant metal coil that heats up in an uncontrollable way and contacts my cookware unevenly.”

      When my gas stove fails, I will almost certainly replace it with an electric induction stove. I have never used one, but my understanding is that they are just as easy to cook with as a gas stove.

      However, old style electric stoves are still about half the price of induction stoves, and gas stoves are even cheaper. I can’t fault someone for having to replace their range with something they can just barely afford instead of with something they can’t afford at all.

      • Skua@kbin.social
        16·
        5 months ago

        Having used all three types a fair bit, holy shit yes a good induction hob is leagues above the old electric coil ones

      • Test_Tickles@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        1·
        4 months ago

        Induction is not perfect. We bought an induction burner that we use in conjunction with our gas stove and ideally I want a range that is half induction, half sealed electric, and has one long gas burner that has grill and griddle options. Induction is much faster and can even be set to hit a specific temperature, but it also power cycles just like standard electric. So, if we need to maintain a constant temp for something like simmering, we’ll start on induction and then move to gas for simmering.
        Induction also requires ferromagnetic cookware, so not only is the stove extra expensive, but it requires more expensive cookware.
        Induction is also noisier. Not only are there electric fans cooling the electronics, but if your pot is not perfectly centered you may get a hum or buzzing sound from the induction coil.
        Induction also draws a stupid amount power while it is in use. Overall it uses that power more efficiently, but it does not play nicely with other appliances on the same circuit. Also, if you have an older house, you need to make sure you wiring, breakers, and circuit box are able to handle an induction range before you run out and buy one. Overall we use the hell out of our induction burner, but we still use the gas burners enough that it doesn’t make sense for us to spend the serious remodeling money we would need to pay to move to an all induction setup.

      • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
        13·
        5 months ago

        you never used one, yet you have opinions about how it’s gonna be just as good as a gas one. Spoiler alert: it won’t. Oh, and ofc, buy a cheap induction stove for added suffering.

      • BarqsHasBite@lemmy.caEnglish
        114·
        5 months ago

        There it is. Lol very controllable. The only way it doesn’t contact properly is if you have warped pots. You also missed one of the electric stoves, is that the one that killed your parents?

        • Nougat@fedia.io
          10·
          5 months ago

          You also missed one of the electric stoves, …

          Which one?

          … is that the one that killed your parents?

          Now I’m thinking you read someone else’s comment and not mine.

    • Zachariah@lemmy.world
      132·
      5 months ago

      I wouldn’t say I love my gas stove (and oven), but I do find it way easier to cook on than electric. I’ve only recently become aware of the health dangers. Not really money in my budget currently to switch.

    • CobblerScholar@lemmy.world
      103·
      5 months ago

      To be fair some folks have a false perception that the gas stove is better for some tasks and buying a whole new appliance sucks especially when it’s potentially the government forcing you to make the switch.

    • snownyte@kbin.social
      36·
      5 months ago

      I don’t get it either. I hate them as well and I just see them as one more thing for landowners to fuck you over with on. I wanted to get into baking things at one point but because I baked a pizza for 20 minutes in my gas stove, that was like $15 on my utility bill on top of rent. Fuck that.