• Justin@lemmy.jlh.name
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    It takes 23 hours and 2000 km to drive from the southernmost point in sweden to Abisko in the north.

    A full loop through Malmö-Kalmar-Stockholm-Luleå-Abisko-Östersund-Göteborg-Malmö takes over 2 days and over 4000 km.

    Europe is not small.

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      8 months ago

      I think OPs point is that this is only in 1 state as opposed to an entire country.

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      Sweden is definitely the exception in EU, that country is crazy “long”, and the geography also makes travel more difficult. You can drive north-south all across Germany in under 10 hours

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        The equivalent to what this guy did would be more like driving along the border, which would easily take 30h.

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          Yeah, I don’t think there are any roads on the western border of Sweden, north of Oslo. It would take weeks the cover the actual border, I think.

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          8 months ago

          “It takes 23 hours and 2000 km to drive from the southernmost point in sweden to Abisko in the north.”

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      8 months ago

      Google says it will take over SIX days to drive from St. Petersburg to Magadan. Easternmost towns cannot be reached by a land vehicle at all.

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      8 months ago

      Lol. Responds to a post about a state by comparing it to a continent.

      A full loop around Jupiter is 70,000 km.

      Jupiter is not small.

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        8 months ago

        The post says “The European mind cannot comprehend this”. The US is barely twice as big as Europe. We have states that are bigger than Michigan.

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        He’s comparing one state to one country (Sweden) and then adds that Europe is not small, which is fair, because the caption says that the “European” mind can’t comprehend this. Europe as a continent is about as big as the US, the European Union is less than half of the size of the US and the individual countries are of course way smaller than the US. Since the EU has open borders, I’d say that comparing the US to the EU is fair and EU member states can be compared to US states. For example: France is about as large as Texas, Germany about as large as Montana and Italy is comparable to New Mexico. There’s a lot of movement between EU countries and some people cross borders every day to go to work or do groceries. The highway/road just continues without interruption.

        Europe as a continent is meaningless, though, and then you might as well include Asia, as Europe isn’t an actual continent (Eurasia is the worlds largest continent). You could drive all the way to Eastern China if you’d like, but you’d be crossing multiple borders with border control and visa requirements, so that makes it incomparable to driving within the US.

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          Europe as a continent is meaningless, though, and then you might as well include Asia, as Europe isn’t an actual continent

          Is that what they teach you in school over there?

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            I’ve always grown up with the idea that Europe is a continent, but if I’m not mistaken there is no geographical basis for that. See for example Wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurasia. But yeah, we all call Europe a continent because of historical reasons and I guess that’s still taught in schools and it makes sense in that context. It’s a matter of definition. In the context of driving long distances this made up border has no meaning of course, which is why brought it up.

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              Most English-speaking countries recognize seven regions as continents. In order from largest to smallest in area, these seven regions are Asia, Africa, North America, South America, Antarctica, Europe, and Australia.

              Now as to how anyone detailed the discussion this far, successfully, is beyond me. Actually everything in your comment after the link is nonsense too.

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                If you don’t mind, can you then tell me why Europe should be considered its own continent separate from Asia, apart from the fact that we’ve all agreed on that a long time ago? If you check here, they actually agree with it being for historical reasons (check the “Asia and Europe” section): https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boundaries_between_the_continents. We’ve all agreed that it’s a continent, so it’s a continent, that’s not something I’m refuting. I’m also aware that calling Eurasia a continent is in that sense false. But you seem to be confident that my statement that it’s for historical reasons rather than geographical ones is nonsense. I’m open to learning something new today.

                In the context of the original post, it’s completely irrelevant. Comparing Europe or Eurasia as a continent to the US as a country is not a valid comparison and I’ve said so in my first comment. I could’ve left out that part completely without changing my point.

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                  Well, definitions are typically things people agreed upon, at one time or another. So what we have now, generally started from what everyone agreed upon during the antique times. Then, during the Renaissance times the definition expanded to cover all “four corners” of Earth. Australia was also included later, as time went by.

                  Physically Europe and Asia are a single continent, sure, and when discussing that, we use the name Eurasia. Funnily enough, Africa used to be considered a part of the Asian continent. In any case, definitions shift as the humanity learned more and we needed terms to discuss certain areas.

                  My point is: we aren’t keeping definitions for historical reasons, even though there is history behind the terms. If we were to divide the globe in to continents for the first time ever, it would stand to reason the areas would be split similarly as they were, because geographically it still makes the most sense.

                  If we went just by tectonic plates or some similar way to determine continents, I guess we could get more specific easily. But in the context of language and understanding, combining south and north america to a single thing, or europe and asia, makes little sense.

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            8 months ago

            The Netherlands is tiny indeed! If you had asked me I would’ve guessed higher than that. You can drive from Groningen in the north to Maastricht in the south in 3.5 hours. Add 30 minutes and you can drive from Groningen to Maastricht spending most of your journey in Germany.

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              Yeah I didn’t mean any insult by it, I just didn’t realize how small it is. Much love to the Dutch!

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              What is a rode island?

              Edit: oh is that part of Boston?

              Sweden is cool! Huge fan. A whole nation that has half as many people as the NYC metro area. That’s crazy! It also fits into Texas almost twice. Bonkers!