I see this a lot in media criticism. People complaining about “plot holes” or something just not making sense, meanwhile it was explicitly pointed out or explained. I’d blame people being on their phones or something, but the truth isn’t that sympathetic.
People weren’t on their phones when they saw the Stormtroopers let the rebels get away from the death star so they could track them, heard one rebel say “they let us get away from the death star so they can track us,” and then spent 50 years joking about how awful stormtrooper aim is
It’s a good thing there’s like 12-15 different scenes with stormtroopers who can’t aim in the original trilogy then.
That’s just covering fire to cover for the first instance
And then Disney made the joke canon because of the algorithm.
to be fair all action movie baddies do have garbage aim despite being the scary powerful elite squad militia or something. i hate this trope so hard.
And Tarkin telling Vader, “You’re sure the homing beacon is secure aboard their ship? I’m taking an awful risk, Vader. This had better work.”
People complaining about “plot holes” or something just not making sense
Then you have Starfield’s main story.
Reminds me of how people somehow still don’t understand Lost
A good example is Titanic where people keep saying Jack could fit on the door, despite the film showing him trying to get onto the door and almost capsizing it, so he leaves it alone to ensure Rose’s safety.
What is buoyancy?
Another one of my favorites: when people read between lines that aren’t there.
I said what I said, not what you heard.
Now we’re arguing about what I said even though it was 5 seconds ago.
Irl I often repeat what other people say in my own words and ask them if that’s what they believe. It both helps me understand where they’re coming from and confirm I get them
On the Internet I almost never do.
Communication is a two way street. You can be as explicit as you want but if people are trying to win an argument instead of have a discussion they’re going to misconstrue what you’re saying more often than not.
So what you’re saying is you make shit up and then when people deny it, you look at them all smug like “I told you so”?
See the problem with your comment is that it’s indistinguishable from something the average Lemmy user would actually say in an argument, so it’s very hard to tell if it’s sarcasm
Brother, dude is just a parrot walking across a keyboard. He’s not capable of active malice.
Being able to figure out what another person is trying to say is an important skill some people don’t seem have. I’m not talking about pretending not to understand to “win an argument” either: some folks are legitimately incapable of it.
@fsxylo @Mandarbmax Two of the three direct replies are solid Exhibits A and B of exactly what you’re talking about xD
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So what you’re saying is…
Or maybe just stop making racist jokes
I don’t…
I see. But 30 dollars in change are heavy and impractical to carry around. Even if it’s the same value, I’d have to prefer the Bills. My wife is rather petite and has to carry around a lot of change and says it’s tiresome at times.
As someone who has 30$ in bills, even they get in the way and manage to be obnoxious. There was a girl in my middleschool who had "a lot* of change and she was constantly miserable. I wouldn’t wish it on anyone.
IDK if this is actually a fashion trend but, I’ve noticed recently some girls with $30 in bills going braless? Like dressed up professionally for office job, sans bra.
I would 100% do this.
I would be annoyed if I was unable to because I had too much change.
Yeah, a lot of women are rebelling against the idea that you have to wear a bra to look “professional”. Truly people should be able to do what makes them comfortable. I wish I could go bra-less, but my back would give out before the end of the day.
I agree they should do whatever makes them comfortable. I also 100% acknowledge that this is a me problem, but I find it very “distracting” in a sexy way. I suspect I just need to get used to it and I’m here for that journey.
Yeah, just like bare shoulders and ankles, I think people will get used to it over time.
If you noticed and are distracted (and you’re not the only one), I’d argue that it’s a them problem not a you problem. If you’re “dressed up professionally for an office environment”, that dress code is supposed to be boring, conservative, modest clothing. I personally hate workplaces like that, but if that’s the kind of place you work, then that’s the expectation.
Assuming what you found distracting were nipples, there are ways of not wearing bras while still keeping nipples hidden or at least discrete. If someone’s supposed to be “dressed up professionally for an office job”, it’s reasonable to say that someone who isn’t making an effort to hide her nipples isn’t meeting the dress code. It would be the same if a guy came in wearing a skin-tight shirt from Father Sons.
I would love it if we lived in a world where workplaces just let people wear the clothing that made them comfortable, but until we reach that world, people who have to dress conservatively for a business environment are going to have to cover up.
I grew up before the trend of women being required to have shapeless lumps for breasts and welcome with my whole heart the demise of the foam padded bras and gods damned, horrifyingly named “modesty pads”. There is no way that having nipples should be considered unprofessional but here we are. I don’t like the look of the lumps and don’t like the implication that only the unnatural smooth look is professional.
I think it’s way more stigmatized in the US than it is in the EU, for example. I’ve seen a lot of nips in professional settings that I find shocking, but only because it’s made me realize how much it is sexualized? in the US. Which is weird.
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I feel like we’re going back more to bra-less or “less structured” styles for all sizes, or at least I see it more, which I think is cool. A large portion of people also have pains with bras because there is a lot of shitty/predatory retailers that don’t stock “uncommon” sizes and will try to shove you into “something” so you leave with a purchase so I think it’s kind of a twofold thing. It is shockingly hard to find weird/uncommon sizes outside of online or boutique stores too which can get pricey fast, and finding or having the money to properly find a bra that fits is honestly frustrating because there is huge fluctuation between brands (when there shouldn’t be!!!).
I personally am not a fan of bearing nips to the world so I’m forever stuck with bras/pasties but maybe one day lol.
This is why schools need vending machines
“my wife is rather petite” also supports your view point on the topic.
BUT another way of viewing the topic is that $30 in paper money only has that value because it has it written on it. If you set them both on fire and melt them, copper and nickel maintain a lot more of their value than paper currency.
So really it can be argued either way ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Analogies only go so far. Even the best will break down if you stretch it too far.
I, for one, would greatly prefer breasts that are acceptable currency at vending machines.
So richer women would have bigger boobs? And paying for things made them smaller?
This sounds like a reimagining of that In Time movie. I’d watch it.
Bro you saw the answer. They have the same value despite different sizes. It’s simple. Basic. Elementary. 😉
Joking aside; no I’m totally serious. They should have semi-automated mammogram vending machines that pay people to get tested and they should be as common as the blood pressure kiosks at pharmacies (which should also pay people to use them). The value of catching more treatable diseases earlier in their progression would well outweigh the cost.
If you ever get lost, $30 in coins will also allow you to leave a longer trail than $30 in bills, thus the change allows for more stretching of the analogy!
Oh absolutely! it’s just fun to break them down to see how they would work,
Kinda like taking apart toys to get to the insides. You’ll end up with broken toys.
↑ There’s another analogy to break down
I came to a similar conclusion from the greentext. Big and small are valuable but one is more convenient to carry around with you (due to the mass).
E: I think I see the tumblr users’ confusion here… the sentence
Suppose you had $30 in coins as well, which would have greater mass?
can be interpreted like a semicolon or separate sentence…
Suppose you had $30 in coins as well. Which would have greater mass?
or as a extension describing the object…
Suppose you had $30 in coins which would have greater mass as well?
Some might have taken the latter interpretation which makes the rest of the story incomprehensible.
The latter interpretation is itself incomprehensible. So yes, it renders the story incomprehensible, but I don’t know why anyone would consider it.
You are correct it is, I’m trying to highlight where things diverged in the story into gibberish, which is not easy to tell for someone that lost the thread of the story there. The word “which” is the key difference, so if people miss the first interpretation and go with the other cadence when reading.
Try this: Read the word “which” in the original sentence in your head or out loud once with a higher pitch than the rest of the sentence. Then try reading the sentence again with the word “which” at the same or lower pitch as the rest. If the reader goes the wrong path then they might not even realize that the alternative is there.
Ok fair enough, but I don’t think it matters specifically how they got to their ridiculous interpretation. The problem is that instead of thinking “hey, I probably misunderstood, I should read that over again” they just started going “REEEEEEEEEEEEEE”
The downvoters out here not getting the parable either xD
That was a really fun read. I lost some faith in humanity but it was the wavering variety anyway that comes and goes with the social tides. Tide goes in, tide goes out.
Can’t explain that
I watched some “Just rolled in” to lose faith in humanity and then you realize these people are on the road with me
I interpreted this as meaning small breasts are more value dense
Most valuable tits are the ones in your hand (with consent).
There’s a saying for this. A tit in the hand is worth a hand in her bush, or something
In French we say something like “one you have is better than two you might get”.
I would’ve expected the expression to be in French.
But then no one would be able to understand it.
I venture that anyone who speaks French would.
Clearly unfamiliar with the French
Haha! Walked right into that one, didn’t I?
It’s : un «tiens» vaut mieux que deux «tu l’auras»
A tit in hand is worth more than two in a bra (after a famous Brazilian group’s lyrics)
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I’m so dumb. Here I am, thinking I fully understood the metaphor, and yet I read “breasts” as “beasts” and was very confused when people started mentioning boobs.
I prefer small, but that’s just my 3,000 cents.
You are right, so don’t discount your opinion.
Yeah, thirty bucks in coins would be a pain to nibble on
I tested in the 99th percentile for reading comprehension all through school. I also regular miss things when I read and have to go back and realize I’m a dumbass. If my comprehension is better than 99% it’s very concerning.
Going back and realizing you’re a dumbass is like 99% of reading comprehension. And iterative learning in general. Assuming you know everything at first blush is absolutely how shit like this happens.
How dare you say we piss on the poor
I mean, as long as they’re paying.
The real issue is the person who gets it doesn’t spell out the path of the metaphor from “which has greater mass” through to “which has greater value”. It’s like a text version of a sitcom plot where someone doesn’t say the obvious thing that would stop the entire argument
That’s a technic I call learning by figuring out. I realized some time ago that information you figure out yourself lasts longer. When some at work for example asks me something I usually only return suggestive questions. Questions wich if they answer them lead them to the answer of their questions. I always get rolling eyes when I do but it helps in two ways. First is they really manifest the wisdom so they don’t need to ask me a second time and second they learn relativly fast that they have to think what to ask me and how anoying it is so they ask less frequently but more specific. People hate it but it is benefical for both sides in my opinion.
Nice. I didn’t know there’s an actuall name for it. Thanks.
edit: added a missing word
Edit: shared link because im not any more sure one way or the other after looking it up. Thought it might be useful for others
I knew it looked wrong but I could not put my finger on it. Thanks for the hint.
I thought so too, but then i looked it up and got more confused. i posted the link to a dictionary i looked up and thought you can decide lol
The smaller the tits, the better. Fight me.
You want concave chest craters on your ideal mate?
I’m not saying you’re wrong, I’m just asking.
Flat=smallest, but i am sure i simply haven’t seen “concave chest craters” and would absolutely love it or something
Hey gotta respect the man for sticking to his principles
Don’t knock it til you’ve done shots out of a concave titty
So… a dude ?
Sadly i am not very attracted to male faces or penis 😪.
But lets be honest here, most women do not have animee tiddies. There are probably more flat chested women out there than those with very large ones. I just have to find one 🤞
Be careful, if you say that flat chested adult women exist too loudly, Steam might ban you
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Did I miss something on Steam? Were people publishing pedo games or something?
No, I had anime on the brain. I thought people were defending 1000 year old dragons that look like children. Which wasnt at ALL what was being talked about, so I deleted my comment.
Edit: Also I think whichever instance you are a part of doesnt recognize my comment deletion since you arent OP and yet can respond to my deleted message? Either way, interpretation brain fart made my response irrelevant/off topic, so I deleted my comment
Oh, I didn’t see your comment before it was deleted. Yeah, I was taking about a VN that was removed from Steam storefront recently for depicting a character that was shorter and flatter than others, despite clearly stating she’s an adult with a full-time job. IIRC, the game’s name was “Order Us” or something along those lines. I’m not a huge genre enjoyer myself, but it’s concerning how skewed the standards are in depiction of different body types.
…and there are probably the most people with regular average sized titties that are neither huge or small.
Am a dude, can confirm some dude have tits
I gotta start exercising again
Big or small,
I love 'em all
i like how my interpretation is completely different to everyone else.
naturally, if you were to be carrying a unit of monetary value, you would probably want the one that requires less space, and weight, though the primary factor here is weight. (mass if you want to fucking tumblr me)
30 dollars in bills is more valuable than 30 dollars in coins because it’s more portable.
They’re fungible, and can be transferred into each other easily. They have the same value but different situational utility.
Value is not and cannot be derived solely based on utility in a vacuum. This is proven by the marginal utility of too many titties. While one pair of titties may have value based on their utility, each subsequent pair of titties decreases in utility, as you only have so many hands and so much time.
gotta fucken mouth don’t i
Sure but it quickly becomes meaningless. Once you have a billion titties, now you don’t even have the time to look at them all. That’s why a sharp increase on the rate of the progressive annual titty tax is very important.
Too many titties - does not compute, pls provide a better metaphor.
i dub thy titty economics
The actual value of the money doesn’t change though, and I think that was the person’s misinterpretation as well, your implicit preference can be different based on how the money is presented but it’s still 30 dollars, bills, coins, stock, gold, whatever. Portability can change, ease of use can change, mass can change, shape can change, but 30 bucks is 30 bucks and titties be titties.
this as well. But to me, it’s not that it’s the same, it’s that one is different from the other, in an unrelated manner.
One could argue coins have the distinct advantage in this case of being highly divisible, which is very true.
The question here was not whether titties were tittes, because that’s obvious. But whether one titty was better than the other titty. I think the point here is demonstrating that it’s not about the monetary value. It’s about how you perceive it.
Yes, agree, perception is important. I suppose the root of the disparity in our thinking is what “better” even means, because I’d argue that in and of itself is perceptual with no real definitive answer, at least when it comes to forms of money or titties, you can come up with all kinds of reasons for liking or disliking different forms.
But now I’m really just fascinated by the amount of mental energy we’re all putting into a boob metaphor. Feels like analyzing a koan.
it’s not just a boob metaphor,
it’s a titty metaphorin fact, it’s philosophy under the guise of titties.The equivalent to feeding dogs medication covered in peanut butter.
yes. one has drawbacks for one set of preferences, the other has drawbacks in different ways, for example, if you ran a shop that needed to give change, or you were going to the casino to play slots, or arcade machines, or you were covering a floor in coins decoratively, or you needed to club someone about the head with a heavy sack…
ah yes, covering my floor in titties in a decorative manner.
the ahegao rug to match the shirt, kimono and fedora ofc
