Hamas has proposed a ceasefire plan that would quiet the guns in Gaza for four-and-a-half months, during which all hostages would go free, Israel would withdraw its troops from the Gaza Strip and an agreement would be reached on an end to the war.

Hamas has proposed a ceasefire plan that would quiet the guns in Gaza for four-and-a-half months, during which all hostages would go free, Israel would withdraw its troops from the Gaza Strip and an agreement would be reached on an end to the war.

There was no immediate public response from Israel, which has said it will not pull its troops out of Gaza until Hamas is wiped out.

The Hamas counterproposal envisages three phases of a truce, lasting 45 days each. Militants would exchange remaining Israeli hostages captured on Oct. 7 for Palestinian prisoners. The reconstruction of Gaza would begin, Israeli forces would withdraw completely, and bodies and remains would be exchanged.

U.S. Secretary of State Antony Blinken arrived overnight in Israel after meeting the leaders of mediators Qatar and Egypt.

A source close to the negotiations said the Hamas counterproposal did not require a guarantee of a permanent ceasefire at the outset, but an end to the war would have to be agreed during the truce before the final hostages were freed.

  • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldEnglish
    3492·
    9 months ago

    It’ll be rejected because Isreal doesn’t want to live next to people that want to rape and murder them.

    • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.worldEnglish
      6711·
      9 months ago

      I think people are generally nicer to you if you don’t oppress them for decades and destroy their homes but hey what do I know

      • ToucheGoodSir@lemy.lolEnglish
        1813·
        9 months ago

        I’ve been talking to an Israeli girl for the last few months… Interesting to see things from their perspective. Ya know, if I had to hide in shelters from rocket attacks almost everyday, witnessing a stabbing that happened right next to a date I was having, etc, I’d probably be pretty fucking jaded as well.

        The recent pulling of UNWRA funding was pretty telling imo :/ what are you supposed to do as a state when you have a bunch of kids being radicalized by billionaires living in Qatar to kill Jews n that it would be an honorable death doing so…

        This same girl was thankful for the illegal Israeli settlers in the west bank because they act as a buffer to keep the Israeli center safe as they pull ire to them vs where she lives. I know it is a talking point, but I’d be curious to hear y’all’s answer on why the Egyptian border looks the way it does vs the Israeli one with Gaza.

        Talking to this gal initially, I viewed it as trying to understand the perspective of a true believing Nazi German who happened to be ludicrously hot. The saying of “when you start into the abyss for too long, the abyss stares back” is too true >_< she calls the Palestinians rats quite frequently. I’m sad to say that hearing about her life, I’ve come to understand why she thinks the way she does. Even if I heavily disagree with a lot of her opinions and her fact checking.

        Just yesterday I was talking to her about the tankboi killing those journalists in Lebanon. Her knee jerk reaction was that it was lies. Had to coax out of her which foreign media source she trusted based off what she had seen… It was fucking fox (of course). So I linked her a fox article about it, and it was quite entertaining feeling the gears turn.

        • LibertyLizard@slrpnk.netEnglish
          122·
          9 months ago

          People aren’t cartoon villains. There is always a twisted logic behind those who advocate for ethnic cleansing. It may or may not be that Israel would be better off killing or driving out all Palestinians (at least in a vacuum) but that does not change that the rest of the world should not tolerate it.

        • BB69@lemmy.worldEnglish
          521·
          9 months ago

          I don’t think people understand what it’s like from an Israeli perspective. They place all the blame on Israel. Not saying Israel is innocent, they aren’t, but between the two sides, Israel is the reactionary party.

          I have less concerns we could turn Israel pacifist.

          Hamas will never be peaceful. It’s up to Gaza’s people to change that and reject the violent poking of Israel.

          I mean… what kicked this off this time? Hamas committing horrific acts.

          • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
            92·
            9 months ago

            What do you mean this time? It’s not like Israel stopped killing people.

            • BB69@lemmy.worldEnglish
              48·
              9 months ago

              This time meaning the widespread military action.

              Stop blaming Israel only. Blame them both.

              • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
                11·
                9 months ago

                I’m sorry is abducting thousands of people from a foreign country and holding them without trial; bombing that country repeatedly; and holding it under blockade not widespread military action? Why does Israel constantly get a pass but the second Palestinians do something it’s a cause for a “new” war?

                The old war never ended. Israel has never stopped stealing land with the backing of the IDF.

                  • Maggoty@lemmy.worldEnglish
                    11·
                    9 months ago

                    And I’ll admit that Hamas has done some fucked up stuff, but right now Israel is doing ten times worse.

        • iAmTheTot@kbin.social
          233·
          9 months ago

          I would consider not murdering and raping to be nicer than murdering and raping, yes. Do you not?

          • Rapidcreek@lemmy.worldEnglish
            738·
            9 months ago

            It’s the difference between being civilized and uncivilized to anyone with a straight moral compass

            • OccamsTeapot@lemmy.worldEnglish
              193·
              9 months ago

              It was a sarcastic wording. It really doesn’t have any serious meaning but I would point out that it was literally accurate. Not raping someone is “nicer” than raping someone.

              If you don’t want to read the obvious meaning and instead take everything super seriously then that’s on you. This is why online conversations become insufferable.

    • 520@kbin.social
      479·
      9 months ago

      I’m sure the Palestinians don’t want to live next to people that want to do, and have done, the same and much more to them.

    • LotrOrc@lemmy.worldEnglish
      388·
      9 months ago

      I’m pretty sure the gazans don’t want to live near people who rape and murder them

    • winterayars@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      177·
      9 months ago

      I think we know enough about Israeli government policy to know that’s not what’s going on. They’re the ones who have been propping up Hamas, here.

    • GONADS125@feddit.deEnglish
      73·
      9 months ago

      A little of Column A, a little of Column B…

      (Want to clearly point out that innocent Palestinians are the ones being slaughtered; not Hamas terrorists.)