A few days ago I shared some news that the Eurovision song from Israel would be named “Your land is mine now” to later realize it was from an onion kind of website, lol.

I hope I’m not alone in this kind of f’up.

    • teawrecks@sopuli.xyz
      18·
      11 months ago

      I just can’t figure out why we have a school shooting problem…

      - says the only nation where this regularly happens.

      • groupofcrows@lemmy.ca
        6·
        11 months ago

        They got rid of gun shaped transformers (megatron) and gun shaped Pez dispensers. You can’t expect Americans to do more than this.

      • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
        3·
        11 months ago

        My favorite childhood toy was a metal-and-plastic, kid-sized Winchester 1873. It came with plastic beads it could shoot - they were all lost within days, but it still made a “pop” when you cocked and shot it. I tried to carry that thing everywhere; I clearly remember the trauma when my parents refused to let me take it to church, or school.

        Anyway, I’ve always assumed my experience and desires were pretty standard for kids: they like guns. Is that uniquely American? Do German and Chinese kids not run around with gun-shaped sticks or toys “shooting” at each other?

        Edit: typo

        • tias@discuss.tchncs.de
          9·
          11 months ago

          Sure they do. The difference is they don’t do it with real weapons because people generally don’t own real weapons. When they do own one (for hunting or sport, never for personal protection), it’s locked in a secure safe by law and requires successful completion of a fairly tough training with a proficiency test at the end.

          • 𝕽𝖚𝖆𝖎𝖉𝖍𝖗𝖎𝖌𝖍@midwest.social
            2·
            11 months ago

            Was the JR15 mentioned above a real gun? I have a hard time imagining a functioning rifle chambered in 5.56 that would be small enough for a child to handle. And AR15s aren’t that big; a young teen can handle them fairly easily.

            I guess my point is that the AR frame is about as small as you can make a functioning 5.56 rifle anyway. You could put a shorter barrel on it, maybe lighten the stock, but now you’ve just made a carbine. The upper isn’t getting any smaller… so what’s “JR” about it?

            Scaling an AR down so it just looks like one, but is chambered in something shorter like .22 short… I guess you could call it a JR15. Seems like a cheap cop-out, since that upper is the defining feature of the AR15. Although a guess there are derivations chambered in Blackout, Grendel and so on, and they’re all considered based on the AR platform.

            Hence, my assumption it was a toy.

    • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
      12·
      11 months ago

      It’s a .22lr though, which is common for teaching kids firearms safety. The only difference between that and the usual .22lr squirrel hunting rifles is it has a few cosmetic features like a pistol grip and a detachable mag rather than an 1880s style mag tube under the barrel. It’s also largely injection molded so it’ll also be lighter than said regular hunting rifle (and of course you could still hunt with this and it takes optics easier thanks to the 1913 rail.)

        • MummifiedClient5000English
          14·
          11 months ago

          And leave that kid totally defenceless against all the armed kids in the playground? What sort of monster are you?

        • wildcardology@lemmy.world
          6·
          11 months ago

          For a country that has more guns that people. I think learning about gun safety at an early age is safer.

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          3·
          11 months ago

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDmgDlc-KUg

          Works out fine more often than not, just don’t give a 9yo a full auto uzi.

          This kid may not be ready for semi, but she will be before she can comfortably hold a heavy aluminum/steel or wood/steel rifle. Gun safety is important for kids to learn if they’re going to be around guns, typically if a kid learns to properly respect the dangers involved it cuts down on the 18 and life type scenarios. Sure, you can keep yours locked and you can vet their friend’s parents before you allow them to stay over at the friend’s house all you want, but you can never truly know if they adhere to safe storage around children or if they keep one out of the safe "where their kid can’t reach (spoiler: he can). If they’re aware of gun safety it increases the likelihood they’ll snitch at the mention of “wanna see my dad’s gun?” (and of course you should instruct them to do so regardless), it decreases the mystique of guns so they’re less curious and more “been there done that let’s watch that awful teen titans reboot abortion instead,” and even if they did find themselves in possession or close to a firearm for some ungodly reason, at least they know how to safely clear the chamber, watch the muzzle, etc, so even if they ignore you telling them to get an adult (grounded for life for sure ofc), if they do handle the gun it decreases the likelihood someone will be injured.

          Honestly, it isn’t that bad a move, just be smart, you know, like no full auto uzis until you’re 14. .22lr bolt actions (or air/pellets first then .22lr), then keep moving them up as time goes on (assuming they’re interested and capable, but I mean, don’t force em into ballet either lol).