a.k.a. the 90–9–1 principle. Does the Fediverse follow this rule, or are there more creators here as early adopters? Are you a creator, a participator or a lurker?
I admit it: I’m a lurker 99% of the time. I do partake in the up- and downvoting though.
me too!
And thats still important
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I’m a lurker, but I’m going to try to participation more.
Yep. Lurker here. In the sense that I upvote but don’t post or create content. I am just not witty enough to make a joke or creative enough to write a long winded content. But I do what I do and I think it’s alright.
The nice thing about this right now is that you don’t need to feel witty or creative to post stuff as long as it fits the community you’re in. There aren’t enough people to compete with for posts to get attention, that’s the main attraction to smaller social media environments: you feel like you matter more.
Yep, with low quantity of posts and how Lemmy sorts by default, just commenting random shit on posts you like is helping.
I’d wager most posters also just repost content rather than make original content. I post often to c/undertale_deltarune but it’s just fanart made by others (with credit of course). And I think it goes without saying that most memes are just reposts.
God, the rare few times i put any time and effort into making something it would just get shit on. Lol
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In a threaded site like Reddit or Lemmy, one liners and higher effort comments can coexist. I enjoyed the joking around, sing alongs, even the puns. Then you keep scrolling or collapse the thread and you can get to the more serious replies.
As long as the comments are in good faith or good fun and try to add something, I approve of them.
It was the bad faith stuff, people trying to compete in the victim Olympics (not saying that victims shouldn’t speak up, I mean the people who are just looking for the next thing to be offended about), and attention whoring that I didn’t like. Also the people obsessed with tying every conversation back to what group of people they hate or their political position or the political position they hate. Though I guess on the bright side, those ones did make me feel better about the possibility the world will end soon.
I felt the same on reddit. So far lemmy seems more positive
You don’t have to be any of those things. Post what you want where you think it should go. I post all the time.
Post pics, post questions. Post news articles. Long as your posting. But comments count to me any to.
I am a talentless fool posting nonsense, don’t let your lack of wit or creativity hold you back!
Exactly. Just fart into the wind like the rest of us.
I was like that on Reddit, but that was partly because it’s SO heavily trafficked and there are so many comments within any given post that you either have to be in at the start or make a popular post to have any effect upon discussion. And by “discussion” I mean more using a loudspeaker: there’s little meaningful back and forth, just presentations.
Smaller communities allow for more forum-like interaction.
There were even those graphs showing the common times posts that stay at the top were written for different subreddits, but it was usually the time people were waking up in the US.
I’m sorry sir, but based on this post activity I’m going to need you to turn in your lurker badge immediately.
I’ll lurk on your content.
you’re doing it right now! 😀 how does it feel?
I gotta pee
I think commenting or even voting counts as participating. In my view, lurking means 0% participation.
Definitely a lurker. I rarely have anything I want to show off, and I like reading other people’s opinions and content.
The best thing that any of us can do by far is vote. Even moderately adhering to reddiquette (is there a lemmiquette?) really does improve the community.
Unfortunately on lemmy your vote history is accessible to any admin of any server in the federation. Really hope that’s changed sometime soon.
I don’t think disguising votes will ever happen, by nature of the protocol. Everything on Lemmy has to be verifiable. If votes are anonymous, you can have federated servers that run bots just to flood upvotes and you’d have no way to prove that the vote is unique. The transparency is a feature, not a bug.
Personally I’m a fan. On Reddit, your upvotes were logged as well, but they were only visible to the admins. Here, there’s way more admins. So just be careful when upvoting your unicorn bukake fetishes if you’re embarrassed about it.
Then why close it to admins? Just make vote history public, period. And make it very clear that everyone can see it.
The biggest problem that I have with it currently is that the vast, vast majority of lemmy users, whether it continues to grow or not, will not know about it. And many of them will use usernames that are identifiable, thinking that as long as they don’t say anything controversial, they can’t get into hot water with their govt/church/family/whatever.
just be careful when upvoting your unicorn bukake fetishes if you’re embarrassed about it
Sorry but this is just trying to trivialize a very real issue. If this is ever going to be a place for serious discussion and not just memes, puns, and repetitive jokes, then we shouldn’t dismiss real privacy concerns by acting like anyone who has them is just embarrassed of their silly fetish.
Same here. Been on lemmy for a week and this is my first comment so far.
One of the main reasons I never posted on Reddit was that it always seemed like everything I would want to post was already posted. I’ve made one or two posts here already since the communities are so small/new that things haven’t been posted yet.
This definitely feels like it’s a part of it, 100%. The feeling that you have to force yourself to be unique on Reddit because of how saturated it was.
Post music you listen to on !jukebox@sh.itjust.works
Same unfortunately, although I aspire to have more to share
I’m a lurker. Because idk what to say most of the time
Haha, same thing here. Also I think it’s not necessary to write something that is already written in three other comments. So I just upvote.
Worked out ok this time 😀
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yes it is, did it work?
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Better than having me contribute garbage content and drowning out good content with my garbage. I’ll post when I have something worth posting
I 99% lurk, 9% participate, and 1% post.
That’s 109 percent man. :D
Dang! I didn’t notice lol. But that’s me giving 109% everywhere.
… and one hundred percent concentrated power of will
Did you mean 99%, .9% and .1%?
90-9-1. Brainfart moment.
Can you solve this, please ? It’s for science.
I feel like a number should be there (optional)
The question seems to imply that this ratio is problematic, but it is in fact fine.
There this sense now that “being a creator” has intrinsic value, but this value is an artifact of platforms that exploit its users creations. So much so that we now have an immense amount of low quality fast food grade, in fact toxic, content. Content pollution.
So, whatever the ratio is. If you want to post post, if you want to comment comment, if you want to lurk lurk.
As long as we are all enjoying the experience, who cares?
I’m trying my hardest. I’ve never created a sub but now I’m creating communities, making add-ons and trying to post. Freedom here of corporate interests is awfully nice. The fediverse is expanding but we’re already seeing contracting due to the influx in early June… we definitely had community sprawl. However that was expected. Many communities are doing great! It’s great to see!!!
ditto. i created a community because i had no idea if it was coming back on reddit.
I just subbed to your community. I’m over 30!
awesome!
Same, I historically am mostly a commentor, I posted very rarely on Reddit, and realistically every community I wanted was already built on Reddit.
Here I’m trying to build some communities up that didn’t exist with I got here. I don’t particularly love being a moderator, it hasn’t been so bad on here so far, but I could definitely see wanting to hand off moderation responsibilities or at least add to the “team” as some of my communities get bigger (just based on my history with being a moderator, I hate to be the bad guy).
How do people like I fit in? People who comment a lot and occasionally post stuff.
If you follow OP’s link, the wiki suggests another rule that I think is more accurate. The 1–9–90 rule. 1% create new content, 9% (including you and me) contribute, and 90% lurk.
I’ve seen it described as such:
10 percent of a site’s users bother to make a user ID, and ten percent of those people actually contribute.
Wikipedia is a different concept though.
This is social media. Wiki is information. I come here to share thoughts, but I only go to wiki to find data.
Almost everyone on social media posts random bullshit. That’s why there are tons and tons of comments on every post.
Things like reddit and Lemmy probably have at least 50% participation from their daily active users.
This rule precedes Wikipedia and originally applies to you things like BBS boards and the like.
I believe it about Reddit. Most people show up and browse /r/all. That’s why spez freaked out about big subreddits like pics and ELI5 going NSFW. Those are the biggest eyeball magnets, regularly appearing on the main site.
Some users learn that they can subscribe to specific content and make accounts only for that purpose. A few actually make the effort to submit posts and comments.
You fit in great! 😀
What did you do on your last platform
(prb not the best person to help you as i lerked, and then just blew up commenting 14 times in 10 hrs lol)
The same. Posting stuff once every 3-4 month, commenting 1-10 times per day.
Trust me, I have zero worth to post anyways. And even if I did, someone else would have posted it well before I had chance.
Not to mention my views are often not agreed with (GIF is pronounced with a hard G and I will die on this hill!).
I only say something if I have something to say. And the larger platform gets, the harder it gets to be heard.
I usually just figure I am just lazy. Commenting seems much easier than creating a meme haha
True. On reddit if a popular post was over 4 hours old I didn’t even attempt to comment.
I’m almost always a lurker, but I feel like there’s a difference when it comes to how participation occurs in fediverse communities versus the majority of mainstream social media platforms. It seems that many people here are genuinely interested in creating a space for quality discussion and healthy communities which motivates me to interact, whereas it’s hard to feel like anything you come across is organically presented to you on platforms that are profit driven that aim to be as addicting as possible. All forms of social media have issues imo but this is it in one of the most accessible and least gameified, corpritizied forms
That’s true. I posted more here in the last 2 months than on the other site in years.
I’m mostly a lurker, pretty rarely commenting and posting even less, but I’m trying to be more active on lemmy. I just don’t feel like I ever have anything interesting to contribute to any discussion.
I guess I was a lurker until just now when I made my account. This is literally my first post on my lemmy.world account.
That’s awesome! 😀 Hello and welcome!