• ranandtoldthat@beehaw.org
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    11 months ago

    I believe that you don’t realize that you are saying that. But you accidentally are. The individual in question targeted and attacked people, smaller creators, that correctly called him out in the past. He abused his weight to hurt people with full knowledge of what he was doing. He plagiarized dozens of people. He scammed thousands of people. He lied to hundreds of thousands of people.

    And you’re saying he got bullied by Harris. You are (likely unintentionally) implying that many of his victims individual feelings of betrayal are somehow not their own and less valid than the scammers’ stated feelings.

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      11 months ago

      Even re-reading what I said, I don’t feel like I come off implying that at all. There needs to be room for conversation on how to handle the situation without saying that the victim’s feelings are less valid than the attacker’s. If there is a better way to word what I wrote to focus on that then please let me know.

      I think TheRtRevKaiser said it best “This last video felt like watching somebody’s life being dismantled […] honestly the whole thing just kind of made me feel sad, I didn’t get much satisfaction out of it.” and that’s exactly what I was trying to convey.

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        11 months ago

        And, perhaps separate from my other reply. I’d suggest editing to strike out the accusations of bullying. It’s quite an unfair accusation.

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          11 months ago

          Yeah, thinking about it, I don’t I meant bullying but more or less an attack. Which is it, but a justified one.

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        11 months ago

        I get ya. I don’t think there is a real way to feel satisfaction when someone trangresses like this. A sense of justice, one day, perhaps.

        That last video was indeed sad, it was good for nobody. I don’t envy Mr. Somerton. He, unfortunately, continues to make bad choices, which he puts in full view of the global public. I hope he gets the help he needs. His feelings are valid, and he may need help understanding and processing what he’s done and how it’s impacted his life. It’s probably going to leave an acute trauma, which I don’t wish on anyone. It may take years to recover. I also understand that his own feelings don’t justify his past miadeeds.

        I don’t envy his victims either. Those who’s work, ideas he plagiarized. Those he scammed. Those he lied to. Their feelings are equally valid. And their voices are numerous. We mustn’t try to silence them just because they are numerous.

        We’ll see what comes from Harris’ fund. Maybe that will finally produce a modicum of justice.

        Longer term, I hope Mr. Somerton’s story can be educational, and make it a bit harder for someone like him to hurt people next time someone tries.