• commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    1 year ago

    The moral thing to do is to pay your share of that if you make a copy, even if the copy itself doesn’t cost anything.

    under what ethical system?

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      1 year ago

      Mine, obviously. But feel free to correct me if you disagree with something.

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        1 year ago

        there’s no reason to believe what you claimed. a claim made without justification can be dismissed without justification.

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          They made a justification. They showed you how people couldn’t make these things without people paying for them.

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            They showed you how people couldn’t make these things without people paying for them.

            but that’s not true. people make things all the time without being paid.

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              people make things all the time without being paid.

              Less people make things without being paid than those who make things to get paid. That is a common fact we can both agree on. If you need the number of open source games compared to the number of paid games then I recommend you grab those numbers yourself.

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                  You are equating someone’s terrible hobby project to paid games like it’s 1 to 1. You are simply arguing in bad faith. Have a good day though, hopefully, one day we can converse properly.

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                there are over one hundred fifty thousand results on github for “tictactoe”.

                just how many paid games do you think there are, by the way?

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                github shows a hundred thousand repositories for the query “hangman”. assuming 10% of them are false positives it’s still a great number.

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                this doesn’t prove anyone ever needs to be paid to make something. a single counter example disproves the claim.

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          What unjustified claim did I make that you disagree with? Seems all rather uncontroversial to me.

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            1 year ago

            The moral thing to do is to pay your share of that if you make a copy, even if the copy itself doesn’t cost anything.

            i don’t need to disagree to disbelieve. i do disagree, but without establishing your justification for this claim, it’s kind of hard to argue against it.

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              The justification was that creating things has a cost, even if a copy doesn’t, and that we should distribute that cost as fairly as possible among the people benefiting from the creation.

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                  Idk what to tell you but: Yes it does. We can’t really argue if you refuse to elaborate your point.

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                    when you drive over a bridge, do you tip the engineering form? the contractors? they’re the ones who created this experience for you.