• graphito@sopuli.xyzM
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      1 year ago

      Don’t bite the bait pls, reporting in this case is best course of action. Thanks

    • silly goose meekah@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      19
      arrow-down
      26
      ·
      1 year ago

      Sorry you’re being downvoted, I think you’re entirely correct. I hope the other people just don’t realize how jokes that are relativising transphobic experiences like that are downplaying the actual issues trans people are facing.

        • reddithalation@sopuli.xyz
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          13
          ·
          1 year ago

          itl be definitely be nice when lgbtq doesn’t need to be a social movement, or a political opinion, just a normal thing in life.

        • StenSaksTapir
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          11
          ·
          edit-2
          1 year ago

          We can, but we have to work for it. When any group is no longer being systemically discriminated and have equal rights, then they’re also valid comedy targets.

          Like with racist jokes. They’re fine in very confined groups where everyone agrees that the absurdity of the premise is part of the joke and where nobody will be made to feel unsafe by it. But to a wider audience where people might misunderstand where the joke came from, in what spirit it was told in, it’s nok OK. Not only can it make people from the group being targeted feel unsafe, but it’ll also embolden actual racists who’ll mistake the joke as support of their beliefs.

          It’s a trust thing I guess. As soon as trans people can see someone crack a joke about them online and rest assured in the fact that the person telling that joke isn’t voting for or otherwise enabling people who wants to take away their rights or straight up hurt them, then it’ll be fine.

          This protection, however, should not apply to people who make it their business to hurt or oppress other people, which is why it’s always open season on nazis.

      • SchizoDenji@lemm.ee
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        16
        ·
        1 year ago

        But nobody is downplaying it? Yes Trans people face a lot of issues and they really need to be supported in many ways, but I don’t think this joke insinuates any of that.

        • silly goose meekah@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          8
          arrow-down
          8
          ·
          1 year ago

          I do think that comparing a non native speaker using the wrong article with trans people having to fear for their lives sometimes is downplaying it. I don’t think that was the intent with the original comment, which is why I also don’t appreciate the other person’s snappy response. But I do believe those kinds of jokes can subconsciously make people believe things aren’t as bad as they actually are.

            • silly goose meekah@lemmy.world
              link
              fedilink
              arrow-up
              6
              arrow-down
              1
              ·
              1 year ago

              First of all, pretty much anything is political.

              Second, I’m not the one to pull transphobia into the context. The joke did that on its own.

              Third, I’m looking to have a civil discussion, you’re the one exaggerating things and starting drama by throwing profanities around and accusing me of virtue signalling.

                • silly goose meekah@lemmy.world
                  link
                  fedilink
                  arrow-up
                  1
                  ·
                  1 year ago

                  The issue with not getting offended on the behalf of minorities is that nobody will listen otherwise. Which is kind of detrimental to minorities getting to live a decent and free life, as every human deserves. So, I try to do my best to be informed of marginalized groups and protect their interests. I am open to discussion and different opinions if you can show me that at least some of the affected people agree.

                  If you think that’s ‘causing drama’ a civil discussion won’t be possible. But don’t put the blame on me - that is entirely on you and your unwillingness to check your privilege.