Wasn’t the 100 tampons thing because they didn’t know how weightlessness would affect bleeding?
That and NASA is a very safety conscious organization. So they want to overestimate everything and include way more than they need. So when she said a couple per day you can round that to 5 for safety, then considering it’s a 6 day mission they want to include triple the amount of needed supplies which means 18 days worth. 18*5=90 which is pretty close to 100 so let’s round up again. Plus tampons are a useful first aid tool, especially in zero gravity. You shove some into an open wound and it’ll prevent blood from spilling all over the very sensitive equipment. Does a woman need 100 tampons for 6 days? Of course not, but she wasn’t going to spend a week in the mountains, she was going to space, so the safety precautions were much more stringent
It’s also a weight thing. Tampons are pretty light, it’s like one hundred per pound, so they probably said “we can budget x pounds for this” and didn’t think much about the reasoning behind why they’re sending several hundred tampons into space, but we’re entirely focused on how.
There’s also the point that they don’t go bad. It might be easier to send a load up now, that try and fit enough for each female astronaut into every flight.
Just a word of advice, the tampon in a wound thing, as much as the Russian military might advise it, is not good medical technique. Do not use a tampon to plug a wound. It’ll likely do more harm than good. Just apply pressure to it from the outside with your hand if you have literally no other option.
Agree in general. The problem would be debris trapping, fluid compartmenting, sterility, etc.
But if you need a dressing and that’s all you have, unpacking them into gauze pad like things would be great.
All of this assuming you are literally flying 7.5km/s towards a trauma center
Can the same be said about doing that in zero gravity with specialised sensitive equipment all around you that are essentially keeping you alive?
I’ll take an infection over crashing down in the ISS any day.
Luckily I’m sure there’s plenty of perfectly good alternatives for them. I don’t think we need to even discuss that as am option. Some people will literally buy them for their IFAK in case of gunshot wounds on earth though, so I thought I’d clear it up.
Huh. Learned something today! Because I remember some “worst case scenario” show where a guy suggested just that if nothing else was available.
Imagine how much it would suck treating a wound with a tampon and dying of toxic shock. 😬
I learned recently that in space you might not need to piss as the piss floats in your bladder.
normally you get 3/4s full and really need a slash, but in space it can fill up totally without you feeling anything and then just bust out your urethra without notice.
honestly, it was probably a fair point.
Your bladder changes volume to hold urine; there’s no floating, just pressure. Gravity affects that pressure though.
NASA also does everything they can to save weight though.
On later Apollo missions, they cut the number of band-aids in the lunar lander’s first aid kit from 6 to 12 to save weight.
Doubled the bandaids to save weight. I can see why the tampon thing was a struggle for them.
They’re to replace the tampons
they cut the number of band-aids in the lunar lander’s first aid kit from 6 to 12 to save weight.
I see here is the problem. The guy doesn’t know how to reduce weight, you don’t add more stuff to cut on weight. That explains the extra tampons.
I’m a government employee, so it makes sense that even my efficiency programs create bloat.
Not that I disagree that NASA isn’t safety conscious, but I’ve recently watched a video about the challenge disaster which seemingly could easily have been avoided if they had listened to the weather concerns or redesigned their solid boosters after issues were observed in the first place. I guess in that case they just got too complacent.
That decision was made on a different level, though, and was largely political.
Every policy is written in blood.
menstrual blood, sometimes
I thought you were going to say adjust their tampon supply estimates and then something about mankind and hell in a cell…
My mom makes similar calculations for holiday dinners.
NASA is obsessed with redundancy, especially when the weight allowance lets them run away with it.
Add that to the fact that most of the engineers were men, and had literally no clue about how many tampons are needed for a normal woman on earth, and you end up with 100 being sent up for a two-week mission.
LMAO TWO-WEEK also they could just fucking asked
Apparently someone did, and then the response was that tampons are low enough weight that the packaging to send them was the majority of the weight, even when sending 100, so they sent 100.
They also developed a zero-g makeup kit because they thought that female astronauts would want that. It had eyeliner, lip gloss, foundation, and blush. All specially selected to not generate dust.
The makeup kit never actually flew, likely because someone asked an actual woman if she would ever want that shit in space.
Has no one ever thought to ask if the men might like it? :(
That sounds pretty cool regardless. Space pens are cool, even if mine will never write in zero gravity.
All you need to make that happen is a trampoline.
Considering the kind of person that gets to go to space, I doubt anyone wants it. 10 minutes of prettying up are 10 minutes taken away from research.
Might be worth it if you’re aiming to be part of the first couple to bang in space. I’d certainly want to look my best for that.
I could see a woman, even an astronaut, carrying about what they looked like on the news when they land. I could also see them not caring. Mileage varies
NASA actually did a few press events where they did a live broadcast from either a module or the ISS.
Even if they don’t wear it day to day, I can see an astronaut perhaps using some makeup for that.
Zero-G makeup kit sounds like a feasible thing to research, actually. But to utilise it, we haven’t researched epic space station party technology yet. So, you know, priorities aren’t great.
Maybe NASA thought what was happening on the ISS was a space opera.
They did ask. The source for the claim is Sally Ride talking about the time NASA asked if 100 sounds like the right number.
Smooth comment
They did. That’s why they didn’t send that many. It’s not like it took them a long time to figure what the worst case number would be that fit in the budget.
Do people really use the term “hosting” when saying you’re having someone over for the weekend? Because I’m getting sex worker vibes otherwise.
Sure. In my mind, hosting is either for larger get-together that takes organizing and preparation or if someone is traveling to the area to stay with you for a few days.
Hosting generally carries the weight of planning, organization and preparation that probably doesn’t go into just having someone over to hang out.
Depends how grown-up we’re trying to feel
Been using that forever, even in the internet. Ever heard of LAN hosting?
Is that the original cybering?
hey asl do u lan?
18 f Cali (cough cough)
Only if you stick it into my ethernet port
That’s fucking the LAN port right?
Do you pay it or does it pay you?
I don’t hear it often, but being a host to people in your house is a normal thing.
I feel like we’re missing an important piece of the puzzle: are they an alcoholic?
Anyone who drinks more than a few times a week in the US is likely an alcoholic. Put someone in the hospital and have them discuss their usage with nurses over a variety of days… you will get quotes like (1-2 per week and 1-2 per day out of the same person) then you will have a nurse ask what their weekend drinking looks like and they will say “around a six pack”
Just my observations, maybe I work in a depressed part of the state.
Fuck it’s actually real. Nasa engineers really suggested 100 tampons for 6 days
https://www.poynter.org/tfcn/2021/did-nasa-send-a-woman-to-space-with-100-tampons/
What would be the normal amount, just out of interest?
I’d say 4 tampons a day for 7 days (so 28) would be plenty for most people. If you need 100, I’m concerned you would be dead of blood loss.
I misread that as “4 tampons for 7 days” and almost gagged.
You don’t have to eat them
You don’t have to but a job half done…
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Yup.
Quick math and being paranoid about redundancy:
A typical period lasts 3-5 days, with 7 being the high end. Round to 10.
Heavy flow might require a change every 4 hours, or 6 a day. 12 a day is in the realm of reality, albeit medically concerning.
Bring extra in case return has to be delayed for whatever reason.
They’re extremely light and small, so a conservative weight allowance holds a lot of them. About 1g each, or 100 per 4oz.So some quick math and padding your numbers to account for the unknown gets you 100, which considering they then asked isn’t an unreasonable way to start.
Breweries already did the math for us - 1 case per dude.
Per day
How much is a case?
Over here, beer is typically sold in crates of 20 bottles à 0.5l.Interesting. Where I live the standard case size is 24*0.3L.
Here it’s usually 24 cans of 0.33l. I haven’t seen a crate of bottles in years
I tried too long to figure out what this has to do with the Lemmy app.
*lemme
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How could an adult actually be confused about this?
idk, doesn’t seem that crazy to me. if you don’t drink or are a small person with a small tolerance, you might have no idea how many beers a person who drinks more might get through per night. don’t want to underdo it and have them run out, don’t want to overdo it and make them feel like you think they’re a crazy alcoholic. and then obviously add a little
d r a m ato it cause it’s a tweet :)I mean if I wouldn’t drink, I just wouldn’t buy no alcohol at all. And if I would, I’d just buy twice the amount I drink if I don’t know any better about the person.
I don’t drink coffee, but I still have it in case my guests want some. It’s just nice.
Do you provide cigarettes if you don’t smoke as well?
You sound like you host fun parties.
“What? NO THERES NO FOOD, I ATE AN EARLY DINNER AFTER WORK YOU JACKASS.”
I mean most people eat dinner before they go out? :D And I can communicate with the people I invite, instead of just assuming what they might want over the internet lol.
Cigarettes are a little easier for someone to just carry in their pocket or purse with them
Yes
No I don’t, though maybe if all my guests smoked I might? It’s somewhat arbitrary anyway, you do some things to make their stay pleasant, and you don’t do others if they’re too much work for too little (of your guests’) payoff.
I don’t drink, I’m always confused when hosting about the amount and type of beer I should buy. And then I’m stuck with beer afterwards the inevitably goes bad. Now I just let people BYOB because they typically did that regardless.
You could make it a BMBH (Bring My Beer Home).
I don’t drink
Now I just let people BYOBGoing to BYOB is the right call. Good on you for focusing on your strengths.
I don’t drink either and used to be in a club where I had to work a bar once a year. And every year without fail, I had to re-learn even just the basic categories of beer.
(Where I live, there’s like 7 different words to describe 4 different popular categories.)
I grew up Mormon, and am only now figuring this all out. I have no idea about any of this
It’s fairly well answered by basic information about alcohol serving sizes, DUI limits, and just the amount of fluids someone can take in over an evening. 1 can of beer = 1 basic dose of alcohol. 2 in an hour puts you over the legal limit for blood alcohol for driving. Someone could typically drink maybe a gallon of fluids in an evening regardless of what it is. Beer is sold in packs of 4-12, which are usually shared. So a normal amount of beer to get for someone who isn’t a regular alcoholic would be 2-6 for a night. It also varies with their weight and the strength of the beer (most is about 5% now but some is higher).
Good to know! Thanks for the info 👍🏼
Could also be a joke?
Apparently we don’t do jokes on Lemmy.
We really seem to don’t. Saw a screenshot of a tweet the other day about someone’s dad wanting to take a vacation to the spot where JFK was killed and look around, “just in case the FBI missed something,” and people were calling that dude all kinds of awful things instead of just. Laughing. At the joke he was obviously telling
That shit was wild. Folks were actually pissed about dad over there.
And then you try to tell them it’s a joke and they say “jokes are supposed to be funny”
But like? It is?? How is it not funny???
I guess you’d have to accept that it was an absurd postulate. And they did not.
My favorite was all of the “Doesn’t he know this happened 60 years ago!” Like, mf don’t YOU know this happened 60 years ago!
- This is the internet, there are people who are actually like that, and we’re sick of them.
- absent tone of voice, intonation, and an understanding of his character, we have no idea if he’s joking. It’s a story being told second hand through a small amount of plaintext.
It’s fairly common for people to miss dry humor, especially online. I can be very deadpan in person and sometimes people who don’t know me well think I’m serious about the most absurd things.
