Bishop Joseph Strickland was ‘relieved’ of his duties as head of the Diocese of Tyler after challenging the pope’s leadership
  • rainynight65@feddit.deEnglish
    881·
    1 year ago

    These people keep talking about Jesus, but if the Jesus they talk about and describe in their holy book ever actually had to come back, he wouldn’t last ten minutes until they’d call him radical leftie, an SJW and a ‘danger to the world’ and crucify him again.

      • Stern@lemmy.worldEnglish
        29·
        1 year ago

        Wall Street maybe not. Flipping out in Joel Osteen’s megachurch would be biblically accurate however.

    • Azal@pawb.socialEnglish
      1·
      1 year ago

      For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. 2 Corinthians 11:13-15

      Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Matthew 7:15-20

      If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy, strife, railings, evil surmisings, Perverse disputings of men of corrupt minds, and destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself. But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into this world, and it is certain we can carry nothing out. And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows. Timothy 6:3-10

      It’s funny. The Bible has a few things to say about these people. Shockingly not some of those things often taught, along with this gem.

      Take heed that ye do not your alms before men, to be seen of them: otherwise ye have no reward of your Father which is in heaven. Therefore when thou doest thine alms, do not sound a trumpet before thee, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and in the streets, that they may have glory of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doeth: That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in secret himself shall reward thee openly. And when thou prayest, thou shalt not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, They have their reward. But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly. But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking. Be not ye therefore like unto them: for your Father knoweth what things ye have need of, before ye ask him. Mathew 6:1-8

      Ironically followed by the Lords Prayer, the most repeated part of scripture THEN FOLLOWING

      For if ye forgive men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also forgive you: But if ye forgive not men their trespasses, neither will your Father forgive your trespasses. Matthew 6:14-15

      As a former Christian gone Agnostic… I can’t help but to think that if the Bible is true, there’s gonna be an awful lot of shocked “Christians”

  • amigan@lemmy.dynatron.meEnglish
    822·
    1 year ago

    Papal infallibility is also traditional doctrine. Sounds like some people really want to be excommunicated.

    • VubDapple@lemmy.worldEnglish
      521·
      1 year ago

      It’s only infallible when it’s the message you want to hear. If the message isn’t to your liking then it must be the work of the devil. Very similar to “he’s not hurting the right people”.

      • amigan@lemmy.dynatron.meEnglish
        13·
        1 year ago

        Indeed. I was trying to (probably too obliquely) highlight how futile it is to inject any logic or reasoning into the situation, given the subject matter.

      • amigan@lemmy.dynatron.meEnglish
        64·
        1 year ago

        …We teach and define that it is a dogma divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by the Divine assistance promised to him in blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the divine Redeemer willed that his Church should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves, and not from the consent of the Church, irreformable.

        Sounds pretty cut and dried to me. It applies whenever the Pope speaks ex cathedra, and the bishop was directly contravening such doctrine regarding faith or morals.

          • amigan@lemmy.dynatron.meEnglish
            42·
            1 year ago

            The literature about this subject is all over the place. I definitely see no consensus that there have only been two. Maybe two that are very good examples, but the general theme is that whenever he speaks of faith or morals he is infallible. Oh well, you could spend a lifetime trying to logic the illogical.

  • harry_balzac@lemmy.worldEnglish
    554·
    1 year ago

    With that, the Roman Catholic Church is now about one century more progressive than the Mormons. Still a brainwashing and abusive cult…but they all are.

    • seaQueue@lemmy.worldEnglish
      45·
      1 year ago

      I mean, I’ll take the Catholic church any day over American christo-fascists. At least the church is willing to (very slowly) evolve with the times, meanwhile the christo-fascists are busy creating their own al qaeda clones.

  • AutoTL;DR@lemmings.worldBEnglish
    141·
    1 year ago

    This is the best summary I could come up with:

    Pope Francis forcibly removed a conservative Texas bishop who had been a staunch critic of his progressive reforms of the Catholic Church.

    The Vatican announced on Saturday 11 November that Bishop Joseph Strickland had been “relieved” of his position as the head of the Diocese of Tyler after the pope ordered an “apostolic visitation” in June.

    Bishop Strickland emerged as a leading critic of the pontiff, claiming his leadership was “undermining the Deposit of Faith” and amplifying videos on social media that described Francis as a “diabolically disordered clown.”

    Cardinal Daniel Nicholas DiNardo, of the Metropolitan Archbishop of Galveston-Houston, said in a statement that his removal came after the Vatican ordered an investigation into “all aspects of the governance and leadership”.

    This week, the Pope said that the church would allow transgender Catholics to be baptised and serve as godparents as long as it did not create scandal or “confusion”.

    He has previously stated that gay marriages could be blessed and the church was “open to all” as part of growing outreach to the LGBTQ community.

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