We need to solve those by fixing the actual poblems not just “guns gone problems still there everything’s fine ignore the crime.”
“Pretty much” in THIS country mass shootings only account for .001% of gun deaths. Mostly suicide. You have been misled. Furthermore we have 40,000 more devensive firearms uses than gun deaths, and 88,000 more than our rate of intentional homicides. 100k DGU, 60k total gun deaths, 12k only intentional homicide. And that is the low estimate of DGU by Harvard which had an agenda and it was to “disprove the good guy with a gun myth.” Yet, “unfortunately,” all it proved is that while Kleck and Lott accounted for defensive display, Harvard only included verifiable incidents based off police reports, and STILL “good guys with guns” defend themselves more than people even kill themselves with guns or commit crimes with them respectively.
You can look up that harvard study for yourself but you won’t anyway so I won’t bother linking.
You’re wrong my dude. Guns aren’t necessary where you are, sure, but other places are different. Not every human has an identical experience on this earth as you. You are priveleged, and you sit in your ivory tower judging those less fortunate than you. I hope one day you can learn this.
How are guns protecting people exactly? Shouldn’t the USA be exemplary instead of the worst rich country if guns were preventing anything? 🤔 Have you thought that maybe the issue also comes from people who think like you and the more firearms are accessible, the easier it is to kill someone in a moment that would just pass without any homicide happening if people didn’t have access to firearms?
Well, 100,000 defensive gun uses is more than 12,000 intentional homicides by 88,000, that’s how. That’s 88,000 times someone DID NOT become a victim of violence because THEY had a gun of their own, and that is the low estimate.
Ok, that’s the number for the USA, how does the actual crime rate compare to other countries? If the number show that even with more guns there’s more crime then it’s clear that guns aren’t the solution, isn’t it? Wouldn’t your goal be that both those number become as low as possible?
You know, there’s more to gun violence than homicides and experts agree that they’re used more for crime then self defense. Adding more and more to the mix is just repeating the cold war at a human level, it’s not fixing anything.
Here’s the thing about other countries: There are other variables! Crazy I know, but things like healthcare and wealth inequality and our shit ass school system that more often than not syphons money to the school board while the rest of the country suffers, actually also play a part. Funny how that works.
Source on that? Cause by everything I’ve seen the estimate of crime with gun regardless of injury is 80,000/yr which is still less than 100,000.
Alright, I’m glad to see that we agree that what’s needed isn’t guns then, it’s to solve the underlying issues. Happy to see you changed your mind. Good talk! Have fun!
Lol, no, me making fun of your ridiculous definition of “need” is the complete opposite of agreeing. I prefer the definition the rest of the world uses, y’know, the nondelusional people.
noun A condition or situation in which something must be supplied in order for a certain condition to be maintained or a desired state to be achieved.
noun Something required or wanted; a requisite.
noun Necessity; obligation.
noun A condition of poverty or misfortune.
intransitive verb To be under the necessity of or the obligation to.
intransitive verb To have need of; require.
intransitive verb To have an obligation (to do something).
intransitive verb To be subject (to an action) by obligation.
intransitive verb To want to be subject to.
intransitive verb To be in need or want.
intransitive verb To be necessary.
Not one of those mentions “will die without.” That’s you.You aren’t the arbiter of definitions no matter what your delusions of grandeur convince you of.
Guns aren’t necessary where you are, sure, but other places are different. Not every human has an identical experience on this earth as you. You are priveleged, and you sit in your ivory tower judging those less fortunate than you. I hope one day you can learn this.
I sure hope one day you don’t accidentally kill a family member. I hope no kid gets hold of your gun and shoots up their school with it.
These things happen, but pretty much only in America. How much do you need mass shootings?
Edit: Before you post some stats about gun crimes in other countries as a response that ignores my point, note that I said “pretty much”.
Rule #3, confirm your target.
No kids. Don’t want em. World is fucked.
We need to solve those by fixing the actual poblems not just “guns gone problems still there everything’s fine ignore the crime.”
“Pretty much” in THIS country mass shootings only account for .001% of gun deaths. Mostly suicide. You have been misled. Furthermore we have 40,000 more devensive firearms uses than gun deaths, and 88,000 more than our rate of intentional homicides. 100k DGU, 60k total gun deaths, 12k only intentional homicide. And that is the low estimate of DGU by Harvard which had an agenda and it was to “disprove the good guy with a gun myth.” Yet, “unfortunately,” all it proved is that while Kleck and Lott accounted for defensive display, Harvard only included verifiable incidents based off police reports, and STILL “good guys with guns” defend themselves more than people even kill themselves with guns or commit crimes with them respectively.
source on mass shooting rarity.
You can look up that harvard study for yourself but you won’t anyway so I won’t bother linking.
You’re wrong my dude. Guns aren’t necessary where you are, sure, but other places are different. Not every human has an identical experience on this earth as you. You are priveleged, and you sit in your ivory tower judging those less fortunate than you. I hope one day you can learn this.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate
How are guns protecting people exactly? Shouldn’t the USA be exemplary instead of the worst rich country if guns were preventing anything? 🤔 Have you thought that maybe the issue also comes from people who think like you and the more firearms are accessible, the easier it is to kill someone in a moment that would just pass without any homicide happening if people didn’t have access to firearms?
Well, 100,000 defensive gun uses is more than 12,000 intentional homicides by 88,000, that’s how. That’s 88,000 times someone DID NOT become a victim of violence because THEY had a gun of their own, and that is the low estimate.
Ok, that’s the number for the USA, how does the actual crime rate compare to other countries? If the number show that even with more guns there’s more crime then it’s clear that guns aren’t the solution, isn’t it? Wouldn’t your goal be that both those number become as low as possible?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States
You know, there’s more to gun violence than homicides and experts agree that they’re used more for crime then self defense. Adding more and more to the mix is just repeating the cold war at a human level, it’s not fixing anything.
Here’s the thing about other countries: There are other variables! Crazy I know, but things like healthcare and wealth inequality and our shit ass school system that more often than not syphons money to the school board while the rest of the country suffers, actually also play a part. Funny how that works.
Source on that? Cause by everything I’ve seen the estimate of crime with gun regardless of injury is 80,000/yr which is still less than 100,000.
Alright, I’m glad to see that we agree that what’s needed isn’t guns then, it’s to solve the underlying issues. Happy to see you changed your mind. Good talk! Have fun!
Lol, no, me making fun of your ridiculous definition of “need” is the complete opposite of agreeing. I prefer the definition the rest of the world uses, y’know, the nondelusional people.
https://www.wordnik.com/words/need
noun A condition or situation in which something must be supplied in order for a certain condition to be maintained or a desired state to be achieved. noun Something required or wanted; a requisite. noun Necessity; obligation. noun A condition of poverty or misfortune. intransitive verb To be under the necessity of or the obligation to. intransitive verb To have need of; require. intransitive verb To have an obligation (to do something). intransitive verb To be subject (to an action) by obligation. intransitive verb To want to be subject to. intransitive verb To be in need or want. intransitive verb To be necessary.
Not one of those mentions “will die without.” That’s you. You aren’t the arbiter of definitions no matter what your delusions of grandeur convince you of.
Good talk 👍 Glad to see you agree I was right from the beginning!
Oh, where have I lived in my life?
Your mom’s basement.
Oh good one!
I know.