This is SO true for SO many familiess. Intergenerational social swing is a real thing.
If you’ve got way cool grandparents that are the exception and not that rule, it’s critical that you spend time with them - as adults.
I got decades with my grandparents - both children of the Great Depression - and I learned SO much from them. (Who’d have thought that budgeting and housekeeping and living with little money to spend would be a critical skill in 2025?)
Truth is, they raised 9 kids and none were bigots or judgemental at all (I had awesome aunts and uncles) and I think that all my cousins that spent time with them picked up on their kindness and generosity and knowledge…
It’s pithy, but I tend to see a broader materialist cycle at work. Folks who say “I’m not going to make the mistakes my parents made” tend to be class-mobile and dealing with conditions their parents didn’t necessarily face.
A classic instance is anti-vax hysterics. A population that has grown up in a society where diseases are generally mild and uncommon, but academic performance is life-defining and hyper-competitive will view the phantom menace of autism as more existential than the real-but-distant mortal peril of polio or diphtheria. Similarly, a population that is growing up under a government heavily invested in controlling the spread of deadly diseases will receive propaganda that is radically different from a government heavily invested in poisoning cultural attitudes against socialist health care policies.
In the same vein, Boomer parents telling their kids that they need a college education were responding to a blossoming economic demand for high end professional services. Meanwhile, Millennial/GenX parents skeptical of the benefit of college education are responding to an austere economic model that punishes long term debts and imports low-cost professional services from overseas.
Smart parents teach their kids that inheriting massive amounts of wealth is the key to success.
Everyone who remembered is dead.
- The wealth imbalance of the Gilded Age
- The rise of fascism
- WWII
- Diseases
My grandparents had children in their early 20s and were small business owners. Not a lot to copy for me there even if I wanted to.
My great-grandparents were adults in Nazi Germany. IDK if they were old enough to vote when the Nazis came into power, though.
I have a grandparent who spent their childhood hiding from Nazis, then were pushed to emigrate to the US as adults to escape the postwar lingering fascism 🫠
Another drilled into my head how important vaccines, hygiene, and believing in science are, which I’m grateful for. Like I got a propaganda vaccine, at least for medicine lol
Not sure how that relates to TFA. In that movie, everything just collapsed off-screen with no explanation given at all. If it had any kind of message it’s that it’s pointless to fight fascism so you might as well just let the Empire win.
Kylo’s grandpa was Vader.
Kylo didn’t make the same mistakes as Vader. Vader was so obsessed with protecting the people he cared about that he lost sight of the bigger picture. Kylo was just an edgelord.
Ben Solo copies the mistakes of his maternal grandfather?
I’ll defend TFA (and that’s speaking from a fan who saw the first movie’s release as a kid). The sequels had potential to be good in their own right, if they had a full story/direction planned out and controlled consistency throughout. At least for all their faults the Prequels had a plan, so the execution is weak but the plot is a good story. TFA is a good movie (with issues). The other two are flailing around.
In an alternate timeline Tony Gilroy is somehow the writer for all the Star Wars movies and shows.
TFA was just a lazy copy/paste of A New Hope, of course it’s going to be at least decent. It annoyed me immensely for that fact though.
Also people give The Last Jedi way more hate than it deserves. It had interesting themes and the plot wasn’t totally predictable. It’s easily my favorite of the three.
Rise of Skywalker was dogshit for sure though.
Same as you and I also loved it. I’ve watched the next two movies several times and forgot what they’re about.
Seeing the Falcon in action again almost made me weep with joy.
If they had just put in a scene with Kylo Ren complaining about aliens it would have been prescient. But I don’t remember them giving a whole lot of explanation for him wanting to be like gramps other than the ghost whisperer and a family feud with Luke.
The second one was the only slightly redeemable one of the three.
The first was a tired rehash, the second tried to do something new midway through a tired rehash trilogy, and the third was just shit.
Nah, I’m my own mistakes, or maybe I just didn’t get as far from my dad’s mistakes as I had hoped
