If real people got powers, do you think they would all become corrupt, evil psychopaths?

  • AlecSadler@lemmy.blahaj.zone
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    120
    ·
    5 days ago

    If people had superpowers, vats of trauma and ego issues, and megacorps wanted to wrangle it for profit and control… absolutely yes.

    This would totally happen in the US and other countries. 100%. No doubt.

    • 4am@lemmy.zip
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      49
      ·
      5 days ago

      I used to think it was over the top for expositional purposes. Used to.

  • Corporal_Punishment@feddit.uk
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    86
    ·
    5 days ago

    The only thing stopping Homelander from going on a rampage, killing tens of thousands of people and seizing control of the world is that he cares what people think about him. He wants to be loved, not feared.

    He kills innocent people but he does it discreetly or when it looks like he can justify his actions.

    But can you imagine an absolute piece of shit like Stephen Miller getting super powers? He’d be far, far worse.

    • Lemming6969@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      14
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 days ago

      This is one of the only issues I have with the show… Homelander’s leash appears to be super hamfisted in, or in general it makes little sense why corporate has so much control with so little relative power. Lots of people in that world have powers, and it would be total anarchic chaos in reality.

  • glitchdx@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    19
    ·
    4 days ago

    Depends on who gets superpowers, and how such powers are acquired.

    The broad strokes of The Boys makes some degree of sense if we start with the premise that some megacorporation controls the manufacture and publicity of all supers. However, if supers can come from other sources, then what limitations are we putting on the premise?

    I am of the opinion that most people are inherently good. Most people are also inherently stupid and cowardly, but keep in mind that these circles on the venn diagram are independent of each other despite some overlap. However, if given an opportunity to choose between helping and hurting, without any fear of repercussions either way, most people would choose to help.

    There’s a popular quote: “power corrupts”, which is a shortened version of “absolute power corrupts absolutely”. I think this quote misses something fundamental: “power attracts the corruptable”. In a world without gods, no one I’d ever trust to be one would ever actively make the choice to become one unless it was forced on them somehow.

    If superpowers were distributed more randomly, then the odds of us getting a superman instead of a homelander improve greatly. Still a dice throw though.

  • je_skirata@lemmy.today
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    63
    ·
    5 days ago

    The realistic thing about The Boys is that it isn’t a world where normal people get superpowers, it’s an evil company making superheroes into celebrities for profit.

  • boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    26
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    4 days ago

    Watchmen was a pretty good depiction of this as well.

    Someone with literal godlike powers would probably lose touch with human concerns eventually. People who put on masks and start fights with criminals are deeply unwell.

    They aren’t paragons of society. They’re deeply fucked up people.

  • Godort@lemmy.ca
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    36
    ·
    5 days ago

    No. I don’t think The Boys would be an accurate portrayal.

    I think it would be much worse. Like apocalyptic.

  • GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    21
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    5 days ago

    One hundred percent. If you liked that show, then you might like the Wildcards series or Aberrant rpg.

    Have you ever seen someone poor get a lot of money and they go from being a normal person to a psychopath? Not everyone does, but enough do that you can notice. Being rich is a super power irl. If you’re a billionaire, you can crash a 100k car and just go get another one. A middle class person cannot comprehend having a 100k car.

    There’s a reason the phrase “fuck you money” exists.

  • magnetosphere@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    ·
    5 days ago

    I like how Vought is (among other things) so much like American professional sports organizations, the NFL in particular. I could definitely see supes being handled that way.

  • dil@lemmy.zip
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    13
    ·
    4 days ago

    Nah, I think itd be 60% good people but the worst 10% would be in power pretending to be better than those good enough people

  • MudMan@fedia.io
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    32
    arrow-down
    5
    ·
    5 days ago

    No, it’s much more interesting than that.

    It’s an accurate representation of Garth Ennis being mad about having to work with superheroes despite not liking that at all and being a bit of a petty bitch with a bit of a dudebro sense of humor that, frankly, we all overrated at the time because when you were a teenager in the 90s you thought Preacher was hilarious and much smarter than it is, and it got to his head a bit.

    And then it’s an accurate representation of Eric Kripke who was very much the right age to have gone through that, taking the material and going “well, that Trump guy sure was a thing, huh?” and “aren’t you kind of over all those MCU movies, also?” because superheroes in film were at the same point in 2019 than they were in comic books in 2006.

    Don’t be the teenager we all were in the 90s and assume that “edgy and mean and over the top” is the same as “smart and realistic”. It’s not.

    I’ll say that the show is at least less callous than the original material and it’s at least trying to be political, which makes it slightly more plausible and internally consistent than Ennis’ HR complaint of a comic book. Hollywood has a history of taking this edgelord crap (see also: every single Mark Millar adaptation) and making it palatable by applying the same mainstreaming and dumbing down that kills every Alan Moore adaptation. Turns out if the original material isn’t that smart to begin with that’s actually a good thing to do.

    • prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      5 days ago

      It’s an accurate representation of Garth Ennis being mad about having to work with superheroes despite not liking that at all

      I’m slightly confused… Are you suggesting that Jeff Ennis, the creator of The Boys, previously worked alongside actual superheroes?

      Edit: Oops, Garth*

      • MudMan@fedia.io
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        5
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        5 days ago

        No, no, Jeff Ennis worked as an actual superhero briefly in the 1970s you’re thinking of John Ennis, who created The Boys as a musical in the 90s, but he was mad about his working conditions.

        • felbane@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          3
          ·
          4 days ago

          No, no, John Ennis was the guy who wrote the play Boys Boys Boys after working as a roadie for Mötley Crüe. You’re thinking of Jed Ennis, who published the first blog called The Boys back in 1848 before the web even existed.

  • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    22
    ·
    5 days ago

    It’s not a direct comparison, but look at what happens to people that have money and power in our society. They become evil monsters. I think superpowers could have a similar effect. Although getting money and power requires you to be a monster already on some level, I don’t think suddenly gaining superpowers would have the exact same effect.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      8
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      5 days ago

      They become evil monsters.

      Most, sure, but far from all. The list of historical benevolent dictators isn’t very long, but it’s not short either.

      • Cruxifux@feddit.nl
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        5 days ago

        That’s true. The list of benevolent billionaires is zero as far as I’ve seen though.