• ripcord@lemmy.world
    32·
    9 hours ago

    What does this have to do with AI or with bubblesort?

    This looks like just a list sorted alphabetically. Which unfortunately doesn’t work for the use case. But has been a problem in computing for like literally 70 years.

    • a4ng3l@lemmy.world
      82·
      8 hours ago

      But your explanation is sooooo much less trendy… we’re back to reddit karma bullshit :-(

      • Ganbat@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        3·
        2 hours ago

        Errors such as this have been occurring by human hands for decades, while adversarial networks and language models capable of making the same error have only been available for a few years. As such, attributing all such errors to AI is foolish, as humans have already proven capable of making the same types of mistakes.

      • chuckleslord@lemmy.world
        2·
        4 hours ago

        No, it isn’t. The neutral network was invented in 1943. The first digital computer (what we would think of as a computer) was invented in 1938. The Turing Machine concept was created in 1936.

        • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
          3·
          3 hours ago

          Actually trainable neural networks were way later than that, even.

          Then again, AI = neural network is very recent definition, like just a few years, which is probably what OP meant.

      • vaionko@sopuli.xyz
        271·
        15 hours ago

        Not exactly this, but I hate it when devices translate all the languages in the language selection screen to the chosen language. So I have to guess what “English” is in Chinese. As if it wasn’t difficult enough to navigate to said menu

        • 9point6@lemmy.world
          15·
          15 hours ago

          You’ve reminded me of my favourite one of those that’s probably mostly experienced by British people

          On a country or language list I’m either looking for, “United Kingdom” “Great Britain”, “Britain”/“British”, “England”/” English"

          Now that’s kinda fair enough, it’s usually UK, so I go to the bottom and start my hunt there.

          The big problem comes when the list is ordered by whatever value they’re using to represent the choice, not the text itself, so you get stuff like “United Kingdom” where “Great Britain” should be.

          This is not uncommon

          • yermaw@sh.itjust.works
            4·
            14 hours ago

            I often wonder how many man hours have been wasted searching for the country. Especially when it’s not strictly necessary.

            Its a minimum wage job in the UK im applying for. Lets assume its a safe bet and put UK at the top of the list.

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      5·
      13 hours ago

      AI might actually do better if used to sort here since it MIGHT give you the proper order

  • kickeriekuh@discuss.tchncs.de
    10·
    12 hours ago

    In German, numbers are spoken from left to right, as in English, but ones and tens are always swapped. So 23 becomes three, twenty, and 135 becomes one hundred, five, and thirty:

    • Achter Stock (8)
    • Achtzehnter Stock (18)
    • Achtundzwanzigster Stock (28)
    • Dreizehnter Stock (13)
    • Dreiundzwanzigster Stock (23)
    • Dritter Stock (3)
    • Einundzwanzigster Stock (21)
    • Elfter Stock (11)
    • Erdgeschoss (0)
    • Erster Stock (1)
    • …

    Oh, and the first floor is called the ground floor and is not counted.

  • Deceptichum@quokk.auEnglish
    132·
    14 hours ago

    AI moaners and mislabeling something they don’t understand as AI, what a classic combination.

        • JohnnyCanuck@lemmy.ca
          2·
          5 hours ago

          Or someone compared strings.

          Yes, that’s my joke. Using digits in a string list isn’t enough, you have to be smart with your sorting and sort the numbers before you make the string list for your drop down.

  • balsoft@lemmy.ml
    21·
    16 hours ago
    ❯ touch `seq 1 100`
❯ ls
1    18  27  36  45  54  63  72  81  90
10   19  28  37  46  55  64  73  82  91
100  2	 29  38  47  56  65  74  83  92
11   20  3   39  48  57  66  75  84  93
12   21  30  4	 49  58  67  76  85  94
13   22  31  40  5   59  68  77  86  95
14   23  32  41  50  6	 69  78  87  96
15   24  33  42  51  60  7   79  88  97
16   25  34  43  52  61  70  8	 89  98
17   26  35  44  53  62  71  80  9   99

    (Do I need to tell you how many times I fucked up like this myself?)

    • boonhet@sopuli.xyz
      5·
      13 hours ago

      Those are file names, there’s no reason to assume that they would be numerical which is why ls does the right thing.

      I’m of the opinion that if you want to store numbers as strings and also sort them, you give them a fixed length and leading zeroes.

      • balsoft@lemmy.ml
        2·
        13 hours ago

        I agree that it does “the right thing”, that is it behaves as documented. But that “right thing” could be surprising to a human.

        There’s ls -v which does “version sort” which would seem like a more reasonable default, at least for human consumption. I know it’s impossible to change now because a bajillion tools all over the place depend on the sort order.

        However new tools like eza do this by default:

        ❯ eza
1  6   11  16  21  26  31  36  41  46  51  56  61  66  71  76  81  86  91  96
2  7   12  17  22  27  32  37  42  47  52  57  62  67  72  77  82  87  92  97
3  8   13  18  23  28  33  38  43  48  53  58  63  68  73  78  83  88  93  98
4  9   14  19  24  29  34  39  44  49  54  59  64  69  74  79  84  89  94  99
5  10  15  20  25  30  35  40  45  50  55  60  65  70  75  80  85  90  95  100