Bots of this type have appeared recently, and people are asking if it’s okay to use them. I’m not sure about this either, so I think it would make sense to ask users.
These bots follow some subreddits on Reddit and automatically post it to Lemmy when a post is created there.
I’ve seen an example site for it: lemmit.online. This instance is dedicated solely to mirroring Reddit posts to the Lemmy instance.
Maybe instead of mirroring to a community on Lemmy NSFW, we can subscribe to lemmit.online via Lemmy NSFW. This way we could have kept Lemmy NSFW free of bots. Currently, even if accepted, I believe it should be done under admin control to prevent duplicates.
Here is the poll: https://strawpoll.com/polls/PbZqRw82byN
I’m open to suggestions.
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Categorically no. The point of lemmy isn’t to be a content farm. It’s to be a community where people respect each other. How can you respect anything or anyone while stealing content?
In fact I would go the other way and start banning people that are posting content they don’t explicitly have permission to post. In this day and age where more people are seeking to monetize sharing nudes, we need to protect the few free content creators we have left, whether on this platform or the former one.
Fuck people and bots that steal nudes.
This. 100% this
That’s a fair point but what about artwork? For example hentai. Are we really expecting only OC content to appear on Lemmy? I don’t think that’s realistic at all…
I would argue that we’re no more entitled to post people’s hentai artwork as we are their nudes. More so in fact, it can take days to create hentai, only for it to be posted here with no mechanism for the original author to request it taken down.
If people really want to see other people’s hentai posted here, why not link to it? I’m pretty sure the original authors would appreciate that. Plus if they see Lemmy generating traffic, maybe they’ll join up and post stuff here directly.
That’s what sourcing content is for. All the communities I moderate require sources when possible, and proof of best effort when not.
Your suggestion would make hentai communities all but impossible for the exact reasons you already stated.
Linking only to an art page would make the communities functionally useless. People don’t come to follow a million links, open a hundred web pages, and sign up for a dozen services in hopes of seeing something they like, they come to see the content, same as in any IRL content community.
Nude photos are cheap and easy to produce, so those communities would never be starved for content, but a hentai community that only allows direct images if they’re OC would be dead on arrival.
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Wish there was gold to give you.
from a ‘get as much content as possible’ angle bots are good but i think there’s a big risk of them drowning out actual posters which really takes away a lot of the fun of posting and making it feel like an archive rather than an active community.
Agreed. I think organic growth is better than essentially being nothing better than an RSS feed that copies content from another site because otherwise what’s the point when I might as well go to the original source in the first place. I want this community to be separate and grow into its niche on its own.
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I’m assuming you’re not thinking about the moderation side.
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I think we should not have them or else Lemmy will only be known as the platform that copies from others. Also there could be legal issues when the platform the content is copied from has an ill-minded CEO who wants to shutdown others.
I do you think there are grounds for attacking Lemmy or an instance for hosting all/some of reddit’s user generated content?
from a legal standpoint I can’t see how there is, reddit doesn’t own any of the content it serves. it’s terms of service do require they give the right for them to display it, but not ownership of the content
What do you mean? Just because someone has uploaded their nudes to Reddit doesn’t mean you have the right to upload it somewhere else? It’s a clear violation of copyright. And I’d suspect a sex worker advertising their onlyfans is not going to be too happy about it.
to moderate a community bots are helpfull and this would be great. There also should be a posting limit per hour / day so we don’t flood everything.
Automatic “sync” a subreddit to lemmy is okay, but depends on the content. There are enough user who don’t want to see their content on other platforms. And we don’t want to anger these user. Also mark / link the original poster would be great to appriciate him. Or ask if we can post the content here too or ask if they wanna join and post their stuff directly here
User will also follow the community with most posts. If there are 10 same communities on different lemmy instances I would also follow only the two most actives.
The issue I have is various communities on reddit are disrupting that platform ( with good reason ) . We could end up mirror a bunch of just crap if that happens with one of the communities we are mirroring. We would then be using up server resources to host garbage. It might just be better to sub to those communities that are mirroring.
On grounds of NSFW communities, we have to get the bots. People don’t come to this page to look at 14 posts on each board. They come to them for the same reason they come to the reddit versions of these subs.
Aren’t we trying to compete here? Aren’t we trying to show the refugees a good time? We ought bot.
Thanks for the notification of this post @yay@lemmynsfw.com.
I have created a script that would take the top (user-selectable) 0-1000 posts of a subreddit and post them to a Lemmy community. My plan was then to implement a vote threshold so that posts older than 48 hours and above a user-defined karma limit would be pulled in each time it was run - however the account login no longer works so I assume it and its posts were purged, so I’m here instead!
I do think that in order to get people engaged, we need content to draw them in. I noticed that once I’d posted 50 items across I immediately started getting subscribers to the community.
What I don’t think is right is using bots to just replicate all the content on Reddit. As a moderator of several subs, a lot of content gets removed through moderation (hence the 48 hour limit), and a lot of junk gets through but just doesn’t get upvoted (resulting in the karma threshold). Avoiding the “rubbish” would be good.
My view is that using bots/scripts to seed communities means we can kick start them into life much more quickly, and then when a critical mass of users is reached they become irrelevant and can be disabled. I don’t think we’re here to just copy and paste from Reddit - otherwise surely you’d just go there instead.
Edit: Just to comment on the poll itself. I don’t think “bot only” communities make sense - we’re not here to just copy Reddit… lemmit.online can do that. I believe we should allow bots to seed, and then let actual users take over. Unfortunately there isn’t an explicit option for that so I just went with “Yes”.
If something like that should be allowed, I think it should be marked with a tag/flag/flair (if that’s a thing on Lemmy) so that you can easily filter them out if you want to.
I think that would be super beneficial to help jumpstart this site. Maybe at some point communities can do it the other way around, so that the „main“ branch of the community is on lemmy and can port over the follower of reddit
I would prefer it if bots only reposted approximately 10-40% of the content that receives the most votes.
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