Edit: Replaced “Restrictions” in place of the word “Ban”
Root it and keep finding workarounds, like I’ve always done.
It’s a lot easier when you just drop apps/services that actively try to detect rooted devices. I don’t miss any of the “Pixel exclusive” AI bullshit they keep trying to shove down our throats, because they don’t allow rooted devices to run most of it. Oh no! Anyway…
Planning to become a primary iphone user with a PostmarketOS side phone. Want I want in the future is that if I’m using Android apps, it’s through Waydroid or Android Translation layer. Then hopefully in my lifetime I see non-Android Linux become popular. Or a non-commercial organization take lead on an Android fork that gets significant adoption
What phone are you planning to run postmarket os on? They have like a long list of supported devicws and honestly IDK which one to pick if I were to hypothetically go with with postmarket os
I’m thinking of buying a fairphone or test it out. I do have a pixel 7 that I can give it a go with
Might have to check their list and see what I can obtain cheaply
chuckles nervously in GrapheneOS
Start watching YouTube in Firefox, I guess. I can’t deal with ads and I’m not paying one of the richest companies in the world an ever increasing monthly fee for the rest of my life.
Were you not supposed to use firefox?
I’ve always been using firefox + unlock origin, never messed with apps because they are annoying.
I prefer YouTube ReVanced. It does a lot more than just block ads.
See, the way I’m thinking about it is that, I like my browsing to be non-persistent.
Ideally (if I actually remember to do OPSEC correctly that is), I would clear browsing data before leaving my house, so if some cop seizes it, they won’t be able to see all the stuff I watched, just a clean browser, same with Lemmy, it gets logged out and data cleared before I go somewhere I deem insecure. Apps can leave residues/temp-files. I just don’t like the idea of “Apps”.
(And of course, all traffic goes through VPN, and for Lemmy, also TOR.)
I also use Firefox focus as my default browser, but it doesn’t do ublock origin unfortunately. But everything is temporary for all those one off links you probably open.
Normal firefox can do the same, just set it to “delete browsing data on quit”
Ya but I don’t want to do that lol. I like having Firefox for my main browsing, but when people send me Instagram links and other garbage, I will open, view, and forget.
I’m probably being too optimistic, but they’ve gotta have a switch in dev settings to disable this check, right? I really hope they’re not truly, full stop, not allowing you to side load apps that don’t meet this stupid requirement.
FFS they just had that awful Pixel 10 launch event where they talked about Android being open and what not.
A while back, there were rumors of Microsoft banning piracy from windows, then it turned out to be a nothing burger. I hope this is the same.
To add do your FFS:
Aren’t they also adding a proper Linux Terminal with the next Android? You do this but ban installing non-store apps? Make it make sense!
Nokia still sell phones, better battery life too. Was curious about webOS or what ever it was that a few fairly low spec phones were using although not sure if that died off.
Realistically it would just become a device I have to have because of the stupid expectations of society, but I won’t care about or respect it. Get the cheapest second hand one I can find and use until it breaks. Get a call/SMS only SIM, mine is PAYG but currently subbed to a monthly £4 bundle for unlimited minutes and texts.
Lying.
Lucky patcher will handle it, I suppose
Lucky Patcher still around?
Waiting for someone in Europe to sue them.
I use F-droid for everything. I’d truly be fucked.
Chaos and rebellion.
Sell off any phones that I can’t modify. Aggressively de-Google while setting up fake accounts to send garbage into their system training.
Light my way with the burning of bridges.
Hoping that EU comes to the rescue.
google saw that EU allowed apple to do something similar, so why not take the chance to lock the garden…
Nah they wont.
Sure, they are really good on the right-to-repair issue, but that’s because they want to be more independent and less reliant on other countries to make new phones. As for privacy and information control, the government don’t really have an incentive to give people more privacy and freedoms. They are still trying to pass chat control with a majority of the EU members in support (the only reason its not passed yet is because EU laws need to be unanimous)
You obviously don’t understand EU, it’s far from only right to repair, but EU has many protections against American shenanigans, like tracking and storing of personal data, and right to be forgotten (GDPR). EU Also dictated Apple should allow sideloading, something Apple of course mostly circumvented, but they could face steep fines for that too.
EU also has way stricter regulation than USA and UK on mass surveillance. And generally way better consumer protection than USA.EU also mandates de-anonymisation online: (1). EU also plans to have every single message one sends to be scanned by them.
I think the reasoning behind their decisions is simply summed up as: more power to the EU administration, less freedom for everyone else, be it US tech giants, EU citizens or small software developers.
FUD
For the immediate future, I’ll be all set with GrapheneOS.
Beyond that, I’ll suffer whatever inconveniences I need to in order to avoid this bullshit. If that means I can’t use my banking apps, I’ll find a better bank, or use the web site, or just say “fuck it all” and stop banking on my phone altogether. I’ve already given up NFC payments. It’s not the end of the world.
This will only become a bigger pain in the ass as time goes on, I’m sure, but I will die on this hill. I suggest that everyone draw their lines in the sand sooner rather than later.
this pain in the ass seems to be cyclic with regards to open source things. over the last 30 odd years of my being in the flow of doing my own thing with my own hardware, it seems like we hit peaks and valleys of “company does something frustrating” -> “community sorts it out”. rinse and repeat.
it’ll be bumpy but someone will figure it out and we’ll start the cycle again.
I hope so. There is some apps that I’ve simply grown accustomed to using on a phone and I know will not be supported on a Linux phone
Yep. Me too. I’ll be OK for now with GrapheneOS, and as time goes on I’ll make changes as needed. I’m actually optimistic things will work out before it gets to that point, but if it doesn’t I’m willing to do what I need to. I will die on the hill with you.
I’m so tired of this shit man, I no longer have any real plan.
I’m seriously considering carrying the smallest x86/ARM Tablet capable of running Linux I can alongside some cheap phone for 4G hotspot and calls/strictly necessary.Guess PC land is the last place we still have freedom (for now!!! 🙄🙄🙄)
Not for long, the Microsoft boot secure thing is sus
I’m not one to bang on about the year of Linux, but honestly, the floor is falling out from under ‘consumer Windows,’ and they are doing little to stop it.
At some point, even OEMs are going to get fed up and start offering their own wine/proton centric distros on some laptops/big tablets. They will be awful and bloated, and business laptops will probably be stuck with Windows forever, but still.
Fedora is a thing
If my job didn’t require MS Authenticator I would just be carrying around a dumb phone and my work laptop.
My job requires MS Authenticator and I just use Aegis to make my TOTPs.
Is there a deeper MS Auth feature that locks you in?
Yeah, they don’t allow us to use TOTPs. It’s “passkeys only” through MS Authenticator. Using anything else causes the 365 dashboard to refuse to onboard.
You can use a MiFi router with tablet and a dumbphone just for calls.
Once my phone becomes that limited I may as well go back to a feature phone after mine stops being usable.
