• Almacca@aussie.zone
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    7 days ago

    No.

    But put that technology in an electric motorbike that requires a licence, registration and insurance - Hell Yeah!

    Here’s an interesting clip.

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    Fuck, imagine driving on the interstate going 60 in your car, and you see a dude on a scooter catching up to you on it, waving hello to you.

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    7 days ago

    Wearing motorcycle-grade protection on an eScooter kills the point of the eScooter.

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    9 days ago

    LMAO… yeah go 100mph on a scooter.

    What could possibly go wrong……

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      8 days ago

      I see an increase in the dashcam videos with someone on a 100mph scooter wiping out or crashing into a vehicle.

      Better wear full on motorcycle gear when riding these things and have your will up to date.

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        I saw a one wheel guy doing at least 40mph the other day. He was all kitted out in leathers and a very blinky helmet. Looked like a motorcycle that the front had fallen off of.

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        8 days ago

        If you go frame by frame you can literally see the moment they stop being human and start being raspberry jam

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        And have sufficient insurance to cover the medical damage and claims for damages of his victims.

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    9 days ago

    Can’t wait to see someone riding this at 100 mph in the bike lane, wearing a t-shirt, shorts, and flip flops.

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    8 days ago

    At the 100 mph with such small wheels, you would not have enough time to react between when a small rock appeared clearly in view and when it stops you dead in your tracks.

    I would know as someone who faceplanted after a skateboard wheel hit a pebble so small I never saw it.

    I’d like to laws requiring a larger minimum diameter on e-scooter wheels.

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    7 days ago

    This should be regulared. At the very least, require any user to be an organ donor

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    9 days ago

    When I was 20 I would have gone for this in a heartbeat, now at almost 50 I find myself thinking 15mph is too fast on my escooter.

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      8 days ago

      But do you think your car a should only be able to go the maximum speedlimit when you’re putting the pedal to the medal?

      I’d assume no.

      So why the double standard?

      Because way less regulation and drunken irresponsible young people, probably…

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        A car is actually designed to handle road conditions, maneuver and brake at 100mph. These scooters are just big motors with no other safety mechanisms. There is basically no way to make this safe on the road with this form factor, which is why this is a novelty product being sold to wealthy F1 fans, likely with a mountain of liability paperwork.

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          Well, 100mph is really pushing it, sure, but honestly, the brakes are really fucking good and the mass is low. I’ve driven loads of motorcycles and these scooters, and whilst some or them are insanely hazardous, some of them are sturdy, well balanced and have brakes equal to motorcycles.

          So as long as you protect yourself, have a helmet, I really don’t see a massive difference to motorcycles.

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            8 days ago

            A motorcycle has a solid 6-8" of suspension travel on top of 4" of tire so you don’t go flying over the bars if someone leaves a sharpie marker in the road.

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              True enough, but I think you’d be surprised at how agile and stable some of those larger scoots are.

              I had one with like 8" wheels and a seat and I was fucking terrified to drive the thing even when it went like 25-30km/h, especially on slightly cracked asphalt. On the opposite hand, I also had one with much larger tires, like 10-12", and I had absolutely no fear riding it some 60km/h, even on a sandy road. I’d of course slow down for corners and whatnot, but in general.

              Scoots achieve much of the suspension but having it be much more diagonal than in bikes. In streetbikes, the suspension is almost vertical, whereas in a lot of the larger scoots, it’s like at a 45 degree angle or more, to achieve suspension length without undue addition of height to the stepping board.

              But agai, the point really is that cars can go much faster than they’re usually used at, and I’m sure people would fucking hate having cars which had the max speed of like 85 mph.

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        Even comparing it to a motorcycle, I feel more sketched out by the scooter, just simply because, how effective could any brakes attached to those little wheels possibly be?

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          Well breaking power is proportional to mass, and seeing as the vehicle weighs perhaps quarter at most of a motorcycle (~50kg, which is on the higher end, but would be along the lines of the weight of these faster scoots, against ~200kg), it would depend a lot more on your personal mass.

          It’s not going to be a problem to stop the scooter, but if you’re on the heavier side and have to lean on the bars and put your own weight on it, it’s going to affect the breaking power. A 50kg kid will have a much easier time stopping than a 120kg unit of a man.

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            There’s also mass distribution to consider, how much more likely is a scooter with a 2 or 3 foot wheelbase going to dump the rider on his nose than a motorcycle with a 6 foot wheelbase?

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              That probably depends on how fast you ride it and how skilled the rider is and what ground you’re riding it on.

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        The double standard is because I felt invincible then, now I throw my knee out getting off the toilet.

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          Yeah, but like, why would the vehicle need to structurally be limited to speed if you have no wish of driving above that speed anyway?

          My point is that we allow cars to go much faster than the speed limit. Why not scooters? But also,I acknowledge the reality, which is they’re unregulated and mostly driven by non-sober young-ish people. And plenty of crashes happen. (I’ve been in several myself, albeit I wouldn’t count myself among the young per se.)

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            If you want to ride your e-scooter at 100mph go for it, I do not give 2 shits. As I said in my initial post, I do not want to go that fast because I already feel when I am going 15mph it is too fast.

            If you want to argue about regulation go for it, but that was not what my comment was about, it was about my personal feelings regarding myself.

            • Dasus@lemmy.world
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              If you owned a Bugatti Chiron, would you drive it at 300 mph? Because that’s how fast it goes.

              When’s the last time you drove your car as fast as it goes?

              I do not want to go that fast because I already feel when I am going 15mph it is too fast.

              So should we ban all cars which can exceed speed limits? Or like… could we rely on people just not using the full power at their disposal, and obeying a speed limit?

              Idk, seems to me it’s more or less worked for cars so…

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                Dont be a dolt. People with cars like that take them on closed tracks and indeed may go all the way to top speed.

                • Dasus@lemmy.world
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                  Yeah. You can take them on a course and you can drive them at top speed.

                  That wasn’t the question. The question was how often do you actually use the top speed on an average vehicle? The answer is “practically never”.

                  Yet you’re pretending like the same doesn’t apply for scooters and people would be blazing 100mph all the time if the scooter has a top speed of 100mph.

                  You’re perfectly fine having several ton weighing machines which can do like 120-300mph on the roads and trust that people will behave with them, but something that’s 40 times lighter and has at most double the top speed somehow can’t be driven responsibly?

                  “Don’t be a dolt.”