• roofuskit@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    But 30% of voting age Americans would still vote for him because he’s arresting brown people they don’t know.

    The joke is that costs haven’t even truly gone up from his taxes yet. Just wait until after the midterms when the legislation they passed is scheduled to take effect.

    The average American is so fucked.

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      But 30% of voting age Americans would still vote for him because he’s arresting brown people they don’t know.

      I made peace with my country
      Though I never could believe
      Somebody else’s struggle
      Is the reason that I flee

      Can you carry more
      If you leave me back?
      What’s left to take?
      Who’s lives come last?

      – Excerpts from “Reverend” by Greensky Bluegrass

      These lines from a brand new bluegrass song of all things have been living rent free in my mind. I’m not particularly oppressed, but witnessing the oppression of others has me wanting to leave. Once we run off all the immigrants, and all the people like me leave, will the people who vote for fascism and hatred in this country be able to keep it all from falling apart?

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        Folk music is one of the places where the people are. Even the old religious ones are good, like “One Drop Of Water” which does talk about god but mostly makes fun of a selfish, piece of shit rich guy who couldn’t make it into heaven because he worhsipped his money.

        You can of course also find those messages in a lot of the really good rap and hip hop. Tribe Called Quest was talkin’ some real shit.

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          You missed my point, but yes. I am well aware it is a privilege and that many cannot leave. That said, the barrier isn’t as high as you might think. My childhood friend is a Florida school teacher. Low pay , high debt and bankrupt twice. She’s leaving at the end of the year and already has a job lined up. My cousin with a government job is taking a position in Germany. The middle class can leave fairly easily.

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      3 days ago

      because I voted for Kamala

      You are just as likely to get flagged by Palintir and somewhere down the line when the states start breaking up, there will be targeted drone strikes on “terrorists” in neighboring nation-states by the former USA’s military might, based on your social media uploads and profile picture which Groknet will use to find you.

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    I’m just hoping the legalize safe pain free suicide soon. But that would never happen because for America that would be the equivalent of a business throwing out its own products and having nothing left to sell to their buyers.

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      Never kill yourself for something that’s somebody else’s fault.

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      I’m just hoping the legalize safe pain free suicide soon.

      Fucking pussies. I am depressed too but I would never give these evil stupid fucks trying to run everything into the ground the satisfaction of driving me out of the only universe and life we know exists. I rather live in a state of constant discomfort and spite at the ruling class than be dead forever.

      Seriously, get your shit together people, we ALL die, make your goal being the last one standing instead of letting evil win.

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      mate, I’m in that boat as well.

      the call of the void can be loud.

      tried going there a few times, I still don’t know how I’m still here.

      don’t know what to say, because when I’m nearing the void, nothing that anyone can say can logic you out of the void.

      DM are open for venting if you want. but the only advice I have is “stay strong”, it’s a long and thankless fight. but sometimes, there are good days that are worth it. at least I hope there are

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        Yeah I’m sure friends and family will gather around to be with a person to watch them put a bullet in their head, hang from a noose or suffocate on chemicals. /S

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    Maybe they shouldn’t have voted for an orange dipshit named Trump. Americans deserve what they voted for, even the ones that didn’t vote. Fuck both groups

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      I would not be surprised whatsoever if we find out years from now that he cheated in that election and most Americans voted for Kamala.

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      This is such a bullshit mindset. There are literally millions of us who did our part to try to stop this.

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        Doesn’t matter, it’s collectively, broadly true.

        Leftists and liberals generally spent more time arguing amongst themselves online and glomming on to mini personality cults of prominent online influencers, fully engaging in the distractions of gender and culture wars…

        … than they did spend their time on any kind of actually effective, in any but the most superficial sense, kind of messaging or actions.

        Sure, if you helped run a local homeless shelter, built up some kind of actual union or a a mutual aid network, knocked on doors, rallied people in person or at least phone banked, joined an outfit or did your own actually real and impactful journalism, consistently protested, set up something like an underground railroad, started actually laying a framework for an alternate economy that could be resilient to or function during a collapse of the broader economy…

        Something actually tangible?

        Then hey, you actually tried.

        Basically every one else just whined and complained, ineffectively.

        Doing this all with the greatest access to information and ability to coordinate that has ever been present in the history of humanity.

        Nope, winning twitter arguments was more important.

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          I live in California, dickface. Largest state in the country, we vote blue every single time, but because the way the electoral college works, we are underrepresented.

          I’m sorry, I can’t do what billionaires do and pump huge amounts of money into the candidate that I want.

          Yeah the people who stayed home and didn’t vote or the people who voted third party they can go fuck themselves, but coming after the people who did vote for harris, you look like an asshole.

          This country is so fucking rigged, I dare you to come up with any actually feasible means of fixing it. If you can do that then you can fucking talk like this.

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            I did come up with feasible ways of fixing it.

            10-15 years ago, when the institutional momentum was not yet strong enough that it could not be thwarted by a concerted and targetted, ground up pressure strategy.

            But, back then, everyone told me I was hysterical, overreacting, and that what is currently happening could never happen and was impossible.

            Obama was in power, the Dems had a trifecta, surely they’d overrule citizens united and move the whole country over to ranked choice voting, and abolish gerry mandering!

            Oh wait no, they squandered that, and then people mostly shrugged and sighed as things got worse and worse, not seemingly realizing the exponential nature of the situation, nor to what dire of a degree climate change mandated urgent action.

            We are now at the point where… well basically, the only way to meaningfully fight back against this all would be for enough people to follow the example of your username, and just start assasinating everyone who is personally in a leadership position at an exploitative corporation, over and over and over again, untill CEOs and board members get tired of dying and actually stop raping the people and the planet by force.

            But now we are all even more tired and dispossesed, even more exhausted and overwhelmed.

            We missed our shot at doing it peacefully 10, 15 years ago.

            Now it could only be done through coordinated violence, and we are more atomized and tribalized and individualized than ever, so in all likelihood, the only people who’d even attempt a CEO purge would be lone wolves of some kind, which won’t be enough.

            I don’t really give a damn that you think I look like an asshole, I’m pretty used to bringing up unpleasant facts and realistic assesments that make people deeply uncomfortable.

            We are now at the point where the apparently impossible peaceful revolution has made a violent revolution inevitable.

            Its just that the fascists are doing all the violence, ie, we are losing, for lack of meaningfully fighting back.

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                You… have a strange definition of ‘finding a way’.

                To me, that means; outlinining a reasonably effective plan to achieve what you want, with a realistic chance of succeeding should it be pursued.

                It does not mean successfully executing that plan.

                You can find a path in the woods, and you can actually walk that path.

                These are not the same thing.

                In the context of a society, you expand this analogy to include … masses of people being convinced of the plan, as well as collectively and broadly judging what groups of people actually did, whether or not they even conceptually considered walking the described path, vs en masse walking the found path.

                Also, I’ve in my last comment outlined another ‘way’.

                But, yet again, despite this way having a decent chance of working if executed competently, my strong inclination is that most of the people who say they are very concerned about all these things, say they want things to change…

                They will not do what it would actually take, they will flip to complaining about what is reasonable to expect from people, from themselves… they will not be willing to risk true sacrifice for a greater good, they will continue to be (ironically) reactive, instead of proactive.

                We are broadly frogs being slowly boiled, and yes, that is an accurate analogy, because we have broadly acquiesed to being lobotomized by corporate media and social media, as opposed to radically rejecting it.

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          Thats quite literally false.

          8% of registered voters didnt turn out. 28% of the population is not registered to vote.
          Trump won 49.8% to Harris’ 48.3% which is a split of 316 to 226 electoral votes.

          Your bad takes are exactly the unhelpful pretending that it was a clear cut victory that allows him to do whatever he wants that do not recognize that a lot of people are bot happy or ok with this.
          Its easier to pretend everyone is sinple and evil than accept that there are no sinle answers. But you are unequivocally wrong to say that double the people support or helped Trump.

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            That’s quite literally false.

            235 million eligible to vote

            78 million people voted other than Trump

            77.3 million people voted for Trump

            79.7 million people didn’t vote

            that’s exactly double

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        It’s the same mindset and response as is directed at regressive states. Now I’m not saying I don’t agree with the sentiment, but even places like Florida and Texas have literally millions of people that continue to try to do their part too.

        Still no updoot for the bad take but like I get it.

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      We got the government the wealthy were ok with as a fallback.

      Do not claim to know what people, that you do not know, deserve.