There never was a chance to elect a progressive candidate.
Actually progressive candidates dont have the funds to compete on the scale necessary to fight back against a corrupt 2 party system that has had decades to secure its stranglehold.
Not really. Historically, whenever there is an authoritarian takeover like this, it is never the centrist left party that actually stands up to them and kicks them out of power. You have to let that corrupt party burn completely. Only then is there free space in the landscape to allow the formation of a party that actually has any desire to stand up to authoritarianism. Democrats don’t fight fascism; they build moats and walls around fascism to protect it.
I could use some history learning to give me hope for a more progressive future. Do you have some examples of corrupt parties burning out I could research?
For the closest example, just look to the US’s south. Claudia Sheinbaum in Mexico. Morena, her party, was a new left wing coalition that formed by bypassing the old Mexican centrist leftist parties. To get real change in Mexico required bypassing the old parties entirely. They had their own useless centrists that needed to be ignored and left by the side of the road.
This is what liberals miss when they shout like drunken parrots “vote blue no matter who!” What they miss is that this game does not end after this election. There is always somewhere lower to fall. As bad as things are now, they can always get worse. The choice is never “vote this way or we all die.” These are words used by manipulative centrists to guilt people into voting against real progress. Notice, vote blue no matter who only goes one way. Leftists are expected to circle the wagons and support the centrist stooge, but no centrist will ever be thrown out of the party for refusing to endorse a leftist candidate. “Vote blue no matter who” is a scam.
By voting for the useless centrist for president today, you guarantee that no candidate who will actually improve things will have the Democratic nomination for at least the next 8 years. By voting for the useless centrist today, you prevent a purge of useless centrists from the party as whole, thus ensuring its continual decay. Votes that are wasted on the useless centrist could instead be used to build up a viable third party, and that process takes several election cycles. “Vote blue no matter who” is a myopic, short-term policy only meant to make real change impossible. It’s terroristic hostage-taking.
…the car’s on fire and there’s no driver at the wheel, and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides, and a dark wind blows: the government is corrupt and we’re on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn…we’re trapped in the belly of this horrible machine and the machine is bleeding to death…
…the sun has fallen down, and the billboards are all leering, and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles…
Yes and now we’re driving off a fucking cliff and there won’t be any chances to elect a progressive candidate
There never was a chance to elect a progressive candidate.
Actually progressive candidates dont have the funds to compete on the scale necessary to fight back against a corrupt 2 party system that has had decades to secure its stranglehold.
Not really. Historically, whenever there is an authoritarian takeover like this, it is never the centrist left party that actually stands up to them and kicks them out of power. You have to let that corrupt party burn completely. Only then is there free space in the landscape to allow the formation of a party that actually has any desire to stand up to authoritarianism. Democrats don’t fight fascism; they build moats and walls around fascism to protect it.
I could use some history learning to give me hope for a more progressive future. Do you have some examples of corrupt parties burning out I could research?
For the closest example, just look to the US’s south. Claudia Sheinbaum in Mexico. Morena, her party, was a new left wing coalition that formed by bypassing the old Mexican centrist leftist parties. To get real change in Mexico required bypassing the old parties entirely. They had their own useless centrists that needed to be ignored and left by the side of the road.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morena_(political_party)
This is what liberals miss when they shout like drunken parrots “vote blue no matter who!” What they miss is that this game does not end after this election. There is always somewhere lower to fall. As bad as things are now, they can always get worse. The choice is never “vote this way or we all die.” These are words used by manipulative centrists to guilt people into voting against real progress. Notice, vote blue no matter who only goes one way. Leftists are expected to circle the wagons and support the centrist stooge, but no centrist will ever be thrown out of the party for refusing to endorse a leftist candidate. “Vote blue no matter who” is a scam.
By voting for the useless centrist for president today, you guarantee that no candidate who will actually improve things will have the Democratic nomination for at least the next 8 years. By voting for the useless centrist today, you prevent a purge of useless centrists from the party as whole, thus ensuring its continual decay. Votes that are wasted on the useless centrist could instead be used to build up a viable third party, and that process takes several election cycles. “Vote blue no matter who” is a myopic, short-term policy only meant to make real change impossible. It’s terroristic hostage-taking.
…the car’s on fire and there’s no driver at the wheel, and the sewers are all muddied with a thousand lonely suicides, and a dark wind blows: the government is corrupt and we’re on so many drugs with the radio on and the curtains drawn…we’re trapped in the belly of this horrible machine and the machine is bleeding to death…
…the sun has fallen down, and the billboards are all leering, and the flags are all dead at the top of their poles…