Haven’t seen any chatter here a out the new Murderbot show.
My wife and I are absolutely loving it so far, feels like a really faithful and respectful adaptation to the books, with most of the changes being positive!
Anyone else watching this?
Haven’t seen any chatter here a out the new Murderbot show.
My wife and I are absolutely loving it so far, feels like a really faithful and respectful adaptation to the books, with most of the changes being positive!
Anyone else watching this?
They could of at least removed his hair and put some clear cybernetics. In the books, you couldn’t mistake Murderbot for a human. Even after ART’s modifications (adding hair etc) Murderbot still could only pass as a heavily cybernetically augmented human.
I do fear the shied away from the gender stuff.
The show clearly shows Murderbot as being ACE and uncomfortable with the sexual and gendered reactions of others towards them — which is as important in my view the outward and physical apparent gender.
I do see what your saying, it is just the books have a secunit clearly not looking like any gender. They have skimmed over Muderbot’s disgust of gender and sex, but in the books it is constant theme. It’s visceral.
To have them be genderless is only half way, as secunits, in the books, also look genderless (and not human).
Skarsgård, for a dude, is doing as good a job as he can. Not many known actors could visually do what I’d have preferred, and also can do a ungendered voice. (Any?). I know it’s easier to do it books and realistically they needed a well known actor to pull people to the show.
It’s just…just… That’s not my Murderbot!
I just finished a re-read and I didn’t get a sense that secunits had an agender appearance, this was after Martha wells asked online to find out where a bunch of people got the idea that Murderbot was femme-androgynous so it was top of mind to look for in the books.
In my imagination, Murderbot looked kinda like the player character from the game ‘Citizen Sleeper’, pictured below.
Which is to say, very androgynous and very obviously cybernetic.
There’s quite a bit of character similarity between them too, because the titular Sleeper is a human consciousness in a cybernetic body that has a lot of biological parts, and they are kept loyal to the company who owns them by a drug that will cause their body to break down if they stop taking it. Same intent as the governor module, but a different approach.
I found Murderbot’s physical appearance an important aspect of the books, not just for surface plot reasons (everyone knows they are a bot etc) but because it’s a large part of what people need to overcome from the perspective of seeing past their prejudices.
Not quite as I saw them, but I certainly saw it clearly not human. A composite of plastic, metal and flesh. Comfortable with the label it.
Though the counter to that, I’m sure the books mentions sexbots basically being the same platform as secunits, only with a gender and without built in weapons. With a combatunit being the same again, but with even more weapons (including cyber). Which does say maybe Martha Wells had the platform, without armour, as maybe more fleshly than we are thinking.
The TV series is good, but it’s not as I saw in my head. Other than “Sanctuary Moon”, which nails it.
I am surprised there hasn’t been real unset by fans by giving Murderbot gender. They could have at least picked someone who didn’t look binary. But Skarsgård has got the right character if not the right face.
Yeah, I agree the bots are genuinely "more fleshy"and with skin and such - just saying where my imagination was at - which thanks to the wonder of books can be quite different for different people.
I wish we knew what the motivation was for choosing the actor. The cynic in me thinks they opted obviously male lead to reduce friction and claims of “wokeness” but without some inside insight we can’t know.
I think commercially, they needed a known actor and who can not only look genderless, but sound it? It is easier in books.