The protester said the rally was peaceful until it suddenly got ugly. Now, as he recovers in the hospital, he's not sure if he'll get his vision back in his right eye.
In the video from last weekend of the Australian reporter being shot in the back, you can clearly see the police officer behind her raise and aim straight at her. Clearly there’s no repercussions for misusing these weapons.
I had a similar bruise from a less-lethal bullet on my butt, and I’ve seen a kid get hit with one in his head, that was scary. This was a long time ago though, but the bullets then were steel core and rubber around it. Not sure if they use different ones in the US.
IIRC, rubber “bullets” are somewhere around 30mm, which isn’t that far off from the size of the rounds grenade launchers commonly use - I think those are usually 30-40mm. I saw somebody recently say that they’re the size of 8 or even 4-gauge shotgun slugs, and an 8-gauge is 25% larger than a 12-gauge.
They’re also not rubber like people think of when they hear the name. They’re a metal slug wrapped in a layer of rubber or foam.
We’ve had a couple cases in Norway in recent years where police were investigated for some thing or other. Based on the evidence I’ve seen, they’re definitely held accountable when they over-step.
To name a specific case (where the cop was found not guilty), there was a huge case when a cop punched a guy in the face while he was on the ground. After several rounds in court, it was decided that he was using reasonable force, because the guy was wrestling him, and he noticed that the guy had a knife on him.
The point is that a policeman punching someone at all became a huge court case with national coverage, so I would say they’re held accountable.
Well I got tortured in a cell for three days and can’t get a single Finnish person to even accept that it happened.
They won’t talk about it either. They’ll just shut down, completely.
Just like your systems, theyre good on paper.
But do tell me how a person could feasibly manage to hurt themselves and write a fucking novel with their own blood on the cell walls while under constant supervision for “his safety”?
Afterwards when I tried getting the video of that with lawyers, it’s “vanished”, despite them originally trying to say I “vandalised the cell” by going crazy and drawing with blood.
They denied me my prescription medication, personal rights are honestly a fucking joke in Finland. We’re so bureaucratic it’s gone authoritarian.
It’s ludicrous.
I also didn’t have the mattress or the blanket, they took hose away too. Three days, lights on constantly, no explanation how long I would be here for, no medication, I didn’t eat.
Yeah, police accountability is a complete joke in Finland, much more so than in the US. There may be more overall abuses in the US, our cops generally play nice on the street. But behind closes doors?
Hell, Finnish people literally don’t understand that we actually have rights.
At one point they turned of my water in the cell. That’s literally against international laws.
I’ve tried complaining to officials and journalists and even my own family don’t believe me. My mom fucking victim blamed me for it.
In the US I would’ve definitely found a lawyer willing to fight such clear injustice (as in a golden case). I’d be a fucking millionaire for the compensations.
That, actually the supreme court of Finland deciding I was in the right and my rights were violated? Zero compensation. Fuck, no-one even let me know, I learned it from the news.
So yeah. Police accountability here is a goddamn joke.
The worst part wasn’t the experience itself. Hell — I’ve had trips that felt scarier.
The worst part is people questioning that it ever happened and straight up ignoring it.
So you’ve helped me more to deal with that particular trauma than my mom, who went “well I couldn’t know what happened there” as in implying “perhaps you did something to deserve it”, actually causing most of the related trauma.
In the video from last weekend of the Australian reporter being shot in the back, you can clearly see the police officer behind her raise and aim straight at her. Clearly there’s no repercussions for misusing these weapons.
Different victim but here’s what a shot to the back can do:
This shit is ridiculous. I have many, many words. None of which are not pure rage and sadness.
I had a similar bruise from a less-lethal bullet on my butt, and I’ve seen a kid get hit with one in his head, that was scary. This was a long time ago though, but the bullets then were steel core and rubber around it. Not sure if they use different ones in the US.
I think he was hit with some kind of grenade the police fired. There seems to be a huge hole in the center. How is he not paralyzed??
IIRC, rubber “bullets” are somewhere around 30mm, which isn’t that far off from the size of the rounds grenade launchers commonly use - I think those are usually 30-40mm. I saw somebody recently say that they’re the size of 8 or even 4-gauge shotgun slugs, and an 8-gauge is 25% larger than a 12-gauge.
They’re also not rubber like people think of when they hear the name. They’re a metal slug wrapped in a layer of rubber or foam.
That’s a big-ass bruise. If it was a hole, that man wouldn’t be standing.
Holy shit, where is that picture from? Is that an injury from the current round of protests?
I believe that was from about a week ago. I think it got overshadowed by * gestures widely *.
Maybe in countries where police accountability isn’t a punchline.
Name one.
The real punchline is always in the replies… 😁
Seriously, though. Name one in which you think police accountability isn’t a joke.
Don’t tell me the Nordic countries are unserious about that?
We’ve had a couple cases in Norway in recent years where police were investigated for some thing or other. Based on the evidence I’ve seen, they’re definitely held accountable when they over-step.
To name a specific case (where the cop was found not guilty), there was a huge case when a cop punched a guy in the face while he was on the ground. After several rounds in court, it was decided that he was using reasonable force, because the guy was wrestling him, and he noticed that the guy had a knife on him.
The point is that a policeman punching someone at all became a huge court case with national coverage, so I would say they’re held accountable.
Well I got tortured in a cell for three days and can’t get a single Finnish person to even accept that it happened.
They won’t talk about it either. They’ll just shut down, completely.
Just like your systems, theyre good on paper.
But do tell me how a person could feasibly manage to hurt themselves and write a fucking novel with their own blood on the cell walls while under constant supervision for “his safety”?
Afterwards when I tried getting the video of that with lawyers, it’s “vanished”, despite them originally trying to say I “vandalised the cell” by going crazy and drawing with blood.
They denied me my prescription medication, personal rights are honestly a fucking joke in Finland. We’re so bureaucratic it’s gone authoritarian.
It’s ludicrous.
I also didn’t have the mattress or the blanket, they took hose away too. Three days, lights on constantly, no explanation how long I would be here for, no medication, I didn’t eat.
Yeah, police accountability is a complete joke in Finland, much more so than in the US. There may be more overall abuses in the US, our cops generally play nice on the street. But behind closes doors?
Hell, Finnish people literally don’t understand that we actually have rights.
At one point they turned of my water in the cell. That’s literally against international laws.
I’ve tried complaining to officials and journalists and even my own family don’t believe me. My mom fucking victim blamed me for it.
In the US I would’ve definitely found a lawyer willing to fight such clear injustice (as in a golden case). I’d be a fucking millionaire for the compensations.
But here, even when I do manage a small win like
https://www.hs.fi/suomi/art-2000009654524.html
That, actually the supreme court of Finland deciding I was in the right and my rights were violated? Zero compensation. Fuck, no-one even let me know, I learned it from the news.
So yeah. Police accountability here is a goddamn joke.
I’m so sorry :(
The worst part wasn’t the experience itself. Hell — I’ve had trips that felt scarier.
The worst part is people questioning that it ever happened and straight up ignoring it.
So you’ve helped me more to deal with that particular trauma than my mom, who went “well I couldn’t know what happened there” as in implying “perhaps you did something to deserve it”, actually causing most of the related trauma.
So yeah. Thank you.