• redsunrise@programming.dev
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    22 hours ago

    Oh yeah absolutely. Without Joel, the series suffers so much because of how well Pedro Pascal nailed the role imo. It really, really wanted you to care about Ellie’s relationship but I just couldn’t because her character was so wildly unlikable. I didn’t feel that the way the second game/season was written advanced the overarching theme of the series.

    For that reason, I’m probably going to end up skipping the upcoming season. You’d be better off exploring similar themes in different media lol

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      22 hours ago

      Totally agree. They’re being very open that s3 is going to be all about Abbie, I can’t see people engaging well with that. Things are pointing to this going the way of Westworld…starting sensational, gradually becoming shit.

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        16 hours ago

        Right? I can see why they would want to write a season from her perspective, but one of the reasons people really resonated with S1 is because Joel was such a believable, relatable character with a tragic backstory. Someone whose decisions might be irredeemable devoid of context but completely understandable in the moment. Someone with glaring flaws who’s trying his damnedest to fix them under insurmountable pressure.

        If the writers can pull that off with Abbie I’d be over the moon, but I don’t know if they can.

        • LadyButterfly@piefed.blahaj.zone
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          10 hours ago

          I agree, he was a really well written and engaging character. The 2nd game us divisive, some people that played it LOVE Abbie. From what I’ve read and clips of the game, she won’t work for me. I also can’t see people tuning in for a show about someone new, especially given her actions, AND given s2 was weak. Craig Mazin is brilliant so I was expecting a well crafted S2… I don’t know why he did so badly