• Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org
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        I’m not really concerned about my ignorance on the details. My feeling has been and continues to be that if people with guns tell you not to be in a place, you should not be in that place

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          You think you can stop fascists without going against the orders of people with guns? Yeah that’s not how that works.

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            It’s one thing to be happy to concede your constitutional right to assemble and protections for the press to bullies with guns.

            It’s another to distance yourself from the brave injured journalists and blame the people with cameras for the actions of tyrants.

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                What does “Don’t be in a zero zone, that’s all there is to it.” and “I agree with you fully.” mean, if you’re not endorsing someone who blames the journalists for being harmed while *checks notes* doing their job reporting on civil unrest with cameras in proximity to armed police?

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                    are public protests the only way to fight oppression?

                    No, of course not. Just doing your job as a journalist documenting the government breaking the law is a great way to fight oppression without engaging in public protest.

                    I ask because, while I stand by that if someone with a gun tells me to leave, I will leave

                    Are you a journalist? Do have have a responsibility to the public to document how the government is responding to the protests? As a private citizen, you’re free to follow the dictates of your conscience. But I suspect you’d be a terrible journalist.

                    It seems strange you’re asking about protest ethics, when there were no protesters in the video; only police and journalists. I hope you’re not trying to shift the goalposts, derail the thread, or muddy the waters. There is no order to leave recorded in the video, only police approaching and immediately firing rounds. Journalists in the United States should not expect to be targets of police violence when they’re clearly engaged in first amendment protected activity and not breaking the law.

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        They’re the ones who have the guns and the badges. I can’t bring overwhelming force that would allow me to tell them anything.

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          The people outnumber the cops by orders of magnitude.

          They are the problem, too. Not the solution.

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        Yup, it certainly is. Best place to be when there’s cops out there and a crowd of people determined to be where the cops tell them not to be. I’m not disagreeing with you, and frankly I don’t see it as an insult. I’m not where the police are, and I encourage everyone else to take steps to be where the police aren’t.

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        An area designated by an armed force that is intended to have zero non-uniformed individuals, which is held by force, and which will be defended by escalating levels of violence if violated.