If you combine Sanders and Warren into one they still would have lost to Biden by a pretty wide margin.
Warren is to the right of Bernie anyway, and Bernie is barely left enough for many leftists; I can’t imagine it was leftists that Warren was splitting away.
If you combine Warren and Sanders into one candidate by the end of Super Tuesday would they have a popular vote lead over Biden in all states who voted up to that point?
Is there a reason Sanders didn’t perform better after Warren dropped out?
If you combine Warren and Sanders into one candidate by the end of Super Tuesday would they have a popular vote lead over Biden in all states who voted up to that point?
I was genuinely curious on the answer, so I peaked in…
Hard to scrape this data into excel, but I’m counting from Iowa to Virginia
Biden | Sanders | Warren
5,801,434.00 | 5,119,921.00 | 2,214,498.00
So yes, by about 1.5M votes.
I’ll spot you that - in this scenario - Bloomberg fucks Biden by picking up another 2M votes over the same states. But Biden absolutely pooched it in California and Texas. That alone almost cost him the race.
He leaned hard on the Obama coalition from 2008, cleaning up across the Atlantic and Gulf Coast in large part thanks to Obama’s (eventual) endorsement.
Is there a reason Sanders didn’t perform better after Warren dropped out?
The late game Obama endorsement carried a lot of weight. Plus, COVID was shutting down canvasing and turning the fight into an air war. Biden’s money and the DNC support gave him a lopsided advantage.
Functionally, its the same reason Trump lost the following November. The entire election became a TV race and the networks were firmly in Biden’s corner.
Okay, this is super cool, and the data you scrapped makes a really compelling case that you were correct this entire time, Warren did split the vote.
So this might be a rhetorical question, but is there a lesson that leftists and progressives can take away from this? Does there need to be a clearer direction on leftist unity when approaching a DNC primary to influence the outcome? Did leftists give up way too fast after Super Tuesday? Were leftists too easily influenced by Obama and TV coverage?
If leftists are turning out in droves in the primary how are we getting Joe Biden?
Warren split the vote.
If you combine Sanders and Warren into one they still would have lost to Biden by a pretty wide margin.
Warren is to the right of Bernie anyway, and Bernie is barely left enough for many leftists; I can’t imagine it was leftists that Warren was splitting away.
That’s incorrect
Warren and Sanders combined only had 34% of the popular vote in the 2020 primary.
Not on Super Tuesday, the week before Warren dropped out.
If you combine Warren and Sanders into one candidate by the end of Super Tuesday would they have a popular vote lead over Biden in all states who voted up to that point?
Is there a reason Sanders didn’t perform better after Warren dropped out?
I was genuinely curious on the answer, so I peaked in…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries
Hard to scrape this data into excel, but I’m counting from Iowa to Virginia
Biden | Sanders | Warren
5,801,434.00 | 5,119,921.00 | 2,214,498.00
So yes, by about 1.5M votes.
I’ll spot you that - in this scenario - Bloomberg fucks Biden by picking up another 2M votes over the same states. But Biden absolutely pooched it in California and Texas. That alone almost cost him the race.
He leaned hard on the Obama coalition from 2008, cleaning up across the Atlantic and Gulf Coast in large part thanks to Obama’s (eventual) endorsement.
The late game Obama endorsement carried a lot of weight. Plus, COVID was shutting down canvasing and turning the fight into an air war. Biden’s money and the DNC support gave him a lopsided advantage.
Functionally, its the same reason Trump lost the following November. The entire election became a TV race and the networks were firmly in Biden’s corner.
Okay, this is super cool, and the data you scrapped makes a really compelling case that you were correct this entire time, Warren did split the vote.
So this might be a rhetorical question, but is there a lesson that leftists and progressives can take away from this? Does there need to be a clearer direction on leftist unity when approaching a DNC primary to influence the outcome? Did leftists give up way too fast after Super Tuesday? Were leftists too easily influenced by Obama and TV coverage?