• Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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    21 hours ago

    If I had the money and a computer able to handle the amount of stuff I’d be throwing at it with a local model, I would have a giant website full of AI generated nonsense purely for the purpose of letting AI gobble it up to help the AI incest problem.

    Imagine if a whole metric ton of “websites” did this. The thieving AI companies would either have to start blocking all of these sites or deal with an issue they don’t wanna because they’re too stingy and will probably just have their AI try ( and fail ) to fix the problem.

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    1 day ago

    AI ingesting AI slop and falling apart is not dissimilar to boomers ingesting rightwing slop and falling apart.

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    20 hours ago

    Human society does the same thing.

    We’re ok when we talk about what we saw.

    Less so when we talk about what somebody else saw.

    Crazier and crazier when we talk about what somebody said about what somebody said about what somebody saw. Which is arguably the internet.

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    Ffs, neural networks and LLMs have their place and can be useful, but setting up datacentres that snort up the entire internet indiscriminately to create a glorified chatbot that spews data that may or may not be correct is insane.

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    I’ve been predicting this for a while now and people kept telling me I was wrong. Prepare for dot com burst two, electric boogaloo.

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      I hope it crashes but what if the market completely embraces feels-based economics and just says that incomprehensible AI slop noise is what customers crave? Maybe CEOs will interpret AI gibberish output in much the same way as ancient high priests made calls by sifting through the entrails of sacrificed animals. Tesla meme stock is evidence that you can defy all known laws of economic theory and still just coast by.

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    fill up your free cloud services with ai generated info. i mean thousand text file. like “how to make homemade butterfly”. all of them will scrap by ai.

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    There is a solution to this. Make a **perfect ** AI detecting tool. The only way I can think of is through adding a tag to every bit of AI-generated data,

    Though it could easily be removed from text, I guess.And no, training AI to recognize AI will never work. Also every model would have to join this, or it won’t work.

    Related XKCD

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      Also people won’t be able to pass AI work off as their own if it is labeled as such. Cheating and selling slop is the chief use for AI so any tag or watermark will be removed on the vast majority of stuff.

      There’s also liability. If your AI generates code that’s used to program something important and a lot of people are injured or die, do you really want a tag that can be traceable to back the company to be on the evidence? Or slapped all over the child sex abuse images that their wonderful invention is churning out?

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      LOL you’re suggesting people already doing something unbelievably stupid should do something smart to compensate.

  • Phen@lemmy.eco.br
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    Another problem I’ve realized today, is the proliferation of data that was originally hallucinated by AI.

    I was discussing an issue on a software with a coworker and he asked an AI for help configure around it. He then sent me “apparently we can try changing this setting to this value”. I told him to first validate if that setting really existed because AI tends to make up things like that when it’s what you would want to hear and running a test would take us 20~30 minutes.

    He found some discussions about that setting not working as people expected. “ok at least it exists then” and we tried it. It didn’t work. I later cloned the source of that software and checked, the setting didn’t exist - ever.

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      I love that you even specifically said, “Yea, let’s check to make sure that setting exists to begin with.” To which instead of actually fucking checking, they proceed to google more about the setting and use someone else’s ‘discussion’ online of it not working as proof that it does exist, even though they were likely having that discussion because the setting didn’t exist.

      This is also how I can tell this story is 100% true.

      I don’t miss working support at all and am reminded of it like this daily

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        The benefit of working with open source code bases or being able to check the source for existing features.

        It’s very common for there to be hidden settings, with open source one can look at the code based but with closed source a search may be one’s only hope.

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    Aww boo hoo, did someone generate a degenerative feedback loop? Yeah? Did someone make a big ol’ oppsy whoopsy that’s gunna accelerate in hallucinations and slop as it collapses in on itself? How’s the coded version of a microphone whine going to go, you silly buttholes?

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      People are putting AI generated pitfalls to guard their content.

      They reference nonsense links that usually cannot even be seen by normal users, the AI reads the pages and finds more garbage links even as more are generated by the site.

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        It’s just so unfortunate that, in causing AI to delve down these winding paths, to propagate these slopfest feedback loops, the computers that are running the AI are burning real resources, polluting our atmosphere.

        Unfortunate is not the right word to describe the deep lament I feel, to cause such destruction for so little, if any, gain at all. My heart is heavy with regret for us all. Not just you and I, but for beast, bird, plant as well. Such a shame.

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    Oh no! I HOPE us Taxpayers can Bail Out these AI Companies when they go Under! AFTER ALL we CUT my Child’s LIFESAVING MEDICATION so I KNOW we have the Funds to Help these Poor Billionaire CEOS!

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      I can’t afford groceries now! I’m sure all those billionaires will help us out now that they’ve got a little but more though.

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      Help these Poor Billionaire CEOS!

      Right, self-made billionaires for whom the way to success was already paved by subsidies. Yes, those surely need help to “build” absolutely pointless non-working projects that are supposed to “save humanity”. That’s great. /$