I agree that the church and our theology were also responsible for the industrial slave market from Africa, especially thanks to the Dutch and the French, and that the Bible and ministers drove the chattel system the world over shamefully to the faith.
It’s also possible we wouldn’t have a faith if a thousand things hadn’t stacked “just so”.
I stay because I have faith, I can’t prove it, and it’s worth absolutely nothing beyond keeping a knife off of my wrist and a shotgun out of my mouth but I maintain it due to my own spiritual experiences, and agreement generally with the gospels which led me away from the organized body of the church.
Which leads me back to your last point, nothing is real, let alone organized structures of philosophy, culture, or religions made by Humanity. I probably would be just as devout if I’d been lucky in other ways, born to another faith because we’re all just sorting through ideas we didn’t come up with and welding them into shapes and forms that help us live our lives in ways pleasing to us. My only cause was trying to come into the community that I belong to and share that “Yes the church is full of shit” to others victimized by it in similar ways to myself, my apologies.
That being said, I am sorry the way that I see things is a pain in your ass, it’s never fun when someone in your community disagrees with you after all. Have a lovely day.
I agree that the church and our theology were also responsible for the industrial slave market from Africa, especially thanks to the Dutch and the French, and that the Bible and ministers drove the chattel system the world over shamefully to the faith.
It’s also possible we wouldn’t have a faith if a thousand things hadn’t stacked “just so”.
I stay because I have faith, I can’t prove it, and it’s worth absolutely nothing beyond keeping a knife off of my wrist and a shotgun out of my mouth but I maintain it due to my own spiritual experiences, and agreement generally with the gospels which led me away from the organized body of the church.
Which leads me back to your last point, nothing is real, let alone organized structures of philosophy, culture, or religions made by Humanity. I probably would be just as devout if I’d been lucky in other ways, born to another faith because we’re all just sorting through ideas we didn’t come up with and welding them into shapes and forms that help us live our lives in ways pleasing to us. My only cause was trying to come into the community that I belong to and share that “Yes the church is full of shit” to others victimized by it in similar ways to myself, my apologies.
That being said, I am sorry the way that I see things is a pain in your ass, it’s never fun when someone in your community disagrees with you after all. Have a lovely day.