Yes, it seems that this community is being brigaded. There are a lot of posts on other Lemmys about the feddit.org announcement and it looks like there are people coordinating posting/voting here. It’s kind of obvious when on every Israel/Palestine post multiple people from other instances show up on our small german instance who never posted here and start spreading the most blatant propaganda nonsense.
So yeah, we should totally do a kind of pause for Israel related content. If not, this community will become “European politicians react to something happening in the middle east” and “Some protest is going on about the situation in the middle east in a european city”. And there will be massive fights in the comments.
European countries, especially Germany and the UK are mayor supporters of Israel and the support went on as the genocidal intent was made louder and louder by the Israeli government.
The UN says that within the next days 14,000 babies will be killed by starvation through the total aid blockade and hundreds of thousands of people are on the brink of starvation.
Again European countries support this or remain inactive about it. Suggesting now to “pause content” is quite unhinged. People are being subjected to the most heinous crimes and the only thing that can achieve a change is to keep up pressure, which starts by keeping to talk about it.
It really doesn’t help the case when people say stuff like “Germany supports the genocide”. Not doing enough to stop it? Easy to argue. Not opposing, or even supporting? That’s slander.
Germany kept sending arms to Israel. Among other things outgoing chancellor Scholz and his coalition had approved another 100 million € of weapons to Israel as late as October 2024.
The current chancellor announced that he wants Netanyahu to come to Germany and that he would find a way around the ICC arrest warrant, aka defy the rules based international order to host a suspected war criminal.
Just last week Germanies president was shaking hands with Netanyah in Israel. Germany is the only country siding with Israel in the genocide case at the ICJ. Germany delayed the ICC proceedings against Netanyahu, Gallant, Sinwar and Deif and Hanye with ridiculous arguments in their notes to the court. Just yesterday the German government in their press conference said that it was an “important and good step” that Israel allowed 9 trucks into Gaza. 9 trucks as the minimum to end starvation are 500 trucks a day.
Germany continues to support Israel financially, diplomatically and with weapons. The lip services are worthless, as the actions speak continued support.
Germany is not going to play the bad cop someone else will have to take up that mantle. You know exactly why. No, not what you think, but as long as Germany stays a good cop the Israeli left still has an ally, is able to exert political pressure.
Among other things outgoing chancellor Scholz and his coalition had approved another 100 million € of weapons to Israel as late as October 2024.
Weapons exports were halted for a long time, most of those 100m aren’t weapons but military goods (say, helmets or replacement parts for radars), Germany has demanded a pledge from Israel to only use it for actions compatible with international law. I know how that sounds, I know what you think about it: “Oh, interesting, they’re setting a trap”. (That is what you thought, didn’t you?).
It’s not like Israel wouldn’t be able to produce all the weapons they need to turn the whole of Palestine into mulch on their own, btw. Germany basically does this out of the recognition that Hezbollah etc. exist and would exploit Israeli weakness. The situation cannot be solved with economical pressure, that’d be pissing in the wind. At worst, you’d accelerate Israel’s slide into complete fascism with command economy, arresting the opposition, and everything. Noone would be helped by that.
The current chancellor announced that he wants Netanyahu to come to Germany and that he would find a way around the ICC arrest warrant,
Not going to happen that’s just Merz being impulsive, running his mouth. There’s no legal way for them to do it short of leaving the ICC which is a political impossibility.
Just last week Germanies president was shaking hands with Netanyah in Israel.
Anniversary of 60 years of diplomatic relations, it had to be done. Why, pray tell, did the presidents visit the other country, and not the prime minister / chancellor? Would’ve been appropriate to do a president + prime minister combination at such a big anniversary. You tell me.
Germany delayed the ICC proceedings against Netanyahu, Gallant, Sinwar and Deif and Hanye with ridiculous arguments in their notes to the court.
Defence attorneys doing defence attorney things, they want to be sure they’re in the loop and have access. And before I hear “Israel can defend themselves” no they can’t, they’re only making things worse for themselves as they believe their own propaganda. And btw can you explain what practical impact the “delay” has. The warrants are still out, they’re still not in custody.
Just yesterday the German government in their press conference said that it was an “important and good step” that Israel allowed 9 trucks into Gaza. 9 trucks as the minimum to end starvation are 500 trucks a day.
As humanitarian donors, we have two straightforward messages for the Government of Israel: allow a full resumption of aid into Gaza immediately and enable the UN and humanitarian organisations to work independently and impartially to save lives, reduce suffering and maintain dignity.
Yes, it seems that this community is being brigaded. There are a lot of posts on other Lemmys about the feddit.org announcement and it looks like there are people coordinating posting/voting here. It’s kind of obvious when on every Israel/Palestine post multiple people from other instances show up on our small german instance who never posted here and start spreading the most blatant propaganda nonsense.
So yeah, we should totally do a kind of pause for Israel related content. If not, this community will become “European politicians react to something happening in the middle east” and “Some protest is going on about the situation in the middle east in a european city”. And there will be massive fights in the comments.
European countries, especially Germany and the UK are mayor supporters of Israel and the support went on as the genocidal intent was made louder and louder by the Israeli government.
The UN says that within the next days 14,000 babies will be killed by starvation through the total aid blockade and hundreds of thousands of people are on the brink of starvation.
Again European countries support this or remain inactive about it. Suggesting now to “pause content” is quite unhinged. People are being subjected to the most heinous crimes and the only thing that can achieve a change is to keep up pressure, which starts by keeping to talk about it.
Instead demanding silence is morally wrong.
https://www.auswaertiges-amt.de/en/newsroom/news/e3-gaza-2714878
It really doesn’t help the case when people say stuff like “Germany supports the genocide”. Not doing enough to stop it? Easy to argue. Not opposing, or even supporting? That’s slander.
Germany kept sending arms to Israel. Among other things outgoing chancellor Scholz and his coalition had approved another 100 million € of weapons to Israel as late as October 2024.
The current chancellor announced that he wants Netanyahu to come to Germany and that he would find a way around the ICC arrest warrant, aka defy the rules based international order to host a suspected war criminal.
Just last week Germanies president was shaking hands with Netanyah in Israel. Germany is the only country siding with Israel in the genocide case at the ICJ. Germany delayed the ICC proceedings against Netanyahu, Gallant, Sinwar and Deif and Hanye with ridiculous arguments in their notes to the court. Just yesterday the German government in their press conference said that it was an “important and good step” that Israel allowed 9 trucks into Gaza. 9 trucks as the minimum to end starvation are 500 trucks a day.
Germany continues to support Israel financially, diplomatically and with weapons. The lip services are worthless, as the actions speak continued support.
Germany is not going to play the bad cop someone else will have to take up that mantle. You know exactly why. No, not what you think, but as long as Germany stays a good cop the Israeli left still has an ally, is able to exert political pressure.
Weapons exports were halted for a long time, most of those 100m aren’t weapons but military goods (say, helmets or replacement parts for radars), Germany has demanded a pledge from Israel to only use it for actions compatible with international law. I know how that sounds, I know what you think about it: “Oh, interesting, they’re setting a trap”. (That is what you thought, didn’t you?).
It’s not like Israel wouldn’t be able to produce all the weapons they need to turn the whole of Palestine into mulch on their own, btw. Germany basically does this out of the recognition that Hezbollah etc. exist and would exploit Israeli weakness. The situation cannot be solved with economical pressure, that’d be pissing in the wind. At worst, you’d accelerate Israel’s slide into complete fascism with command economy, arresting the opposition, and everything. Noone would be helped by that.
Not going to happen that’s just Merz being impulsive, running his mouth. There’s no legal way for them to do it short of leaving the ICC which is a political impossibility.
Anniversary of 60 years of diplomatic relations, it had to be done. Why, pray tell, did the presidents visit the other country, and not the prime minister / chancellor? Would’ve been appropriate to do a president + prime minister combination at such a big anniversary. You tell me.
Defence attorneys doing defence attorney things, they want to be sure they’re in the loop and have access. And before I hear “Israel can defend themselves” no they can’t, they’re only making things worse for themselves as they believe their own propaganda. And btw can you explain what practical impact the “delay” has. The warrants are still out, they’re still not in custody.
It is a good step. It is also completely insufficient, yes. Which is why they also said:
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