I’ll start my own leftism, with Blackjack and hookers! If fact, forget the blackjack. Ah, screw the whole thing.
Why can’t we have Leftist Unity? The fucking Rightists can agree on hating “The Libz”
Why can’t we agree on hating cons? Sadly I can’t even get Leftist factions to agree on “LGBT Rights are based and cool”, because Left-Learning TERFs exist and I’ve had Tankies pull “LGBT Rights is racist because it means forcing Western Ideals where they don’t belong” crap on me.
Of course the only reply to this is a “srs leftist” who immediately proclaims you an enemy for shit you didn’t say
We can’t have leftist unity because the right has never run short on useful idiots
Because being a leftist just isnt as fun when you dont hate everyone and everything. Hate is fun
We can’t even use the best slurs because we’re too considerate.
People on the left love to “well actually…” every issue, every opinion, because nothing in the world is 100%, but when something is 85%+ we should just stfu about it, agree and move on to more pressing issues.
But of course we can’t, so we keep losing.
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your lack of participation enabled an actual genocider. think things have gotten better in the last 5 months for gaza? ukraine?
you think you’ll ever take responsibility for your own poor choices?
Half the replies in this thread: so true bestie, except fuck those guys for not being left enough
Reminder to all my homies: If any of ya’ll think trans rights are a bargaining chip, you aint leftist enough for me!
Ok but who thinks that, I’ve not seen anything about that anywhere on lemmy, so it must not be very common
Circular firing squad
I’ve seen situations here on lemmy where I would cause it if I where to argue with someone
I am leftist
Just so we’re clear, democrats are blue conservatives and are not leftists.
The meme is still accurate though. Why does Futurama look so anime? Did i miss a new episode?
Season 6 episode 26
It’s from an episode that does a terribly shallow parody of anime. Ya know the kind where there’s tentacle monsters everywhere despite me not being able to name a single anime I’ve ever seen that has that, just Western Parodies of anime and everyone talks in horrible Engrish in forced asian accents, even though not even dubbers as inept as 4Kids do that?
Basically the “I’m 65 and the only Japanese Cartoon I’ve ever seen is Speed Racer, and maybe parts of one episode of Pokemon my nephew was watching? But I’ve still totally got this guys!” school of anime parodies.
I fucking hate shallow parodies.
The same episode also parodied a lot of 80’s cartoons; Namely Smurfs and GI Joe, and did a much better job of doing so… Mostly because the writers had actually seen Smurfs and GI Joe.
When I go hiking… I am going through certain mental forms of anguish as well as worrying about my water, the heat of the sun, and the fear of dying alone. of like a heart attack. because sometimes I really push myself. On this journey every once in a while I see a comrade and they’re either moving past me at a higher rate or moving away because they’ve already reached their goal. Yet at the end of the day, it is just the time in which it takes me to get to my destination. But yet eventually we all reach the end of the trail. We observed different things and we value different things. We should talk about that.
this is the long way to become right wing
Simpsons did it!
You can’t tell me how to anarchy bro
Futurama is just a slightly different Simpsons!
We are enemies now
I was going to comment that OPs meme sums up db0 really well, but this one does that even better.
One thing the right is good at doing is falling in line, no matter that the agenda being pushed.
That’s mostly due to the rights belief in hierarchy. It doesn’t matter if the person above you has different views than you if you believe their right simply because they’re higher up the pecking order.
One thing I’ve always wondered, who/what decides their hierarchy?
Thry guy who finds himself on top determines the hierarchy until someone supplants him ny whatever means.
Money
God
(Aka their pastor)
Oh deer
Yeah the flaws of leftists is understanding what they are voting for and not operating purely on loyalty.
When the system is broken, that is indeed a flaw
This seems like sarcasm, which is valid, but what you said is also absolutely true. The primary virtue of the left is also its biggest weakness when it comes to implementation.
Gotta maintain that rigid tribal culture so it supports whoever steals the leadership role!
Heh, don’t let that fool you, they still infight like crazy despite that. Examples include the hilarious collapse of the NJP, the assassination of Rockwell (leader of the American Nazi Party) and labeling every existing neo-Nazi group “feds” because they’re inevitably embarrassing and scandal-filled.
The right has their fair share of infighting. They may all want heirarchy, but they disagree on who should be on top. They can all agree on scapegoating an outgroup, but disagree on which people fall into that outgroup. Like, the ultimate endgame of fascism is for the last fascist to kill the second to last fascist for not being white enough.
They appear to be united because most of us don’t go into their spaces and lurk, because, I mean, ew. If a Trump supporter came to Lemmy, they’d find people quite united against them, and if one of us went on Truth Social, we’d find them quite united against us, but that doesn’t mean they actually get along internally.
Honestly I’m fairly certain they infight even harder than the left does. They just wouldn’t self-critically admit to it like we would. Cause they don’t self-crit.
The right opposes free thought and favors conformity to support the privileged few.
The left favors free thought and opposes conformity, because that would impede social progress.
Yeah, I wonder why one of those groups is likely to have public arguments.
Not necessarily. Some leftists demand conformity in beliefs. “If you don’t believe XYZ, you’re a shill/neoliberal/fascist etc.”
I feel like favoring free thought and opposing conformity leads to arguments, but demanding conformity leads to enemies (like this meme).
Some of the most authoritarian people I come into contact with on any kind of regular basis are “leftists” on Lemmy.
The ones in real life are not like that. I feel like Reddit’s moderation model really encourages it, and some of them started really taking it to heart when they came to Lemmy which copied that same model.
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The problem is not public arguments, but groups rejecting other groups for ideological reasons. I personally know people who are like “you can be a communist, or you can be wrong”.
The reality is that there are left groups, especially far-left groups, who will already dismiss your opinion on everything for not categorically rejecting a (social) markets economy. Doesn’t matter if you agree in all other points.
A fundamental disagreement on a foundational principle is going to be a hurdle, indeed.
That reminds me of a scene from Jean-Luc Godard’s La Chinoise, where some members of a Maoist group call others “conformists” or something to that effect because they hold different views on the finer details of communism/socialism.
The right is also driven by fear and hate. It’s easier to get coordination and conformity that way.
It’s a different version of the tolerance paradox
The paradox of tolerance is a philosophical concept suggesting that if a society extends tolerance to those who are intolerant, it risks enabling the eventual dominance of intolerance; thereby undermining the very principle of tolerance. (Source Wikipedia)
God the assassination scene, so accurate.
tale as old as time
I didn’t see this film until the 2010s, and I couldn’t believe how accurately it lampooned my local scene.
err, what movie is it? Yes, I live in a cave.
Monty Python - Life of Brian
Not sure, but I think maybe Life of Brian?
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Political LeftRightism (n.)
Definition:
Political LeftRightism is a spatially encoded meta-framework of political orientation that frames ideological discourse along a singular, bipolar axis, left versus right,thereby reducing the full multidimensional landscape of political thought into a linear spectrum. As a memetic penetrator and perceptual instrument, LeftRightism functions not as a neutral map but as a meta-weapon of the ruling class: a cognitive architecture designed to channel dissent, structure debate, and neutralize system-level critique by confining political possibility to a predefined, adversarial dialectic within the system’s own terms.
Operational Mechanisms:
Perceptual Confinement: Constructs a false totality of ideological space by placing all positions, grievances, and aspirations on a left-to-right continuum. This flattens pluralistic thought into a binary schema and frames radical alternatives as fringe “extremes.”
Cognitive False Equivalence: Establishes symmetry between left and right regardless of historical asymmetry in power, violence, or systemic entrenchment. This symmetry encourages the illusion of balance where structural inequality remains.
Controlled Opposition: Absorbs political resistance into legible categories that the system has already immunized against. By permitting debate only between “acceptable” sides of the spectrum, it constrains opposition into predictable, ineffectual loops.
Ideological Compartmentalization: Prevents synthesis of cross-axis or off-spectrum worldviews (e.g., spiritual leftism, post-capitalist traditionalism, decentralized communitarianism) by declaring them incoherent or invisible.
Map-as-Reality Substitution: Through repetition and institutional embedding, LeftRightism replaces the messy, evolving reality of political life with a static cartographic abstraction, inducing conceptual dependency on the spectrum itself.
As Meta-Weapon: Political LeftRightism operates as an epistemic instrument of enclosure, a framework-level tool of hegemony rather than a position within debate. It disguises its own structural function beneath the appearance of neutrality and exhaustiveness. By scripting political meaning into a legible diagram, it enables elites to:
Predict, manage, and diffuse unrest;
Legitimize centrism as “reasonable” and extremes as dangerous;
Fragment class solidarity into partisan identities;
Avoid exposure of vertical dynamics (top vs. bottom, ruler vs. ruled) by focusing attention horizontally.
Distinction: Unlike left- or right-wing ideologies, which offer substantive (if partial) theories of value or structure, LeftRightism is not an ideology per se but a cartographic control mechanism—an ideological exoskeleton that shapes and constrains all ideologies that operate within it. Its power lies not in its content, but in its pre-conscious adoption as the default schema of political orientation.
If partisan identities are different enough that they don’t ally then that means their differences are too great.
The “leftrigthism framework” itself could be obscuring the possibilities for alliance
I’m not interested in trying to meet in the middle with people who are happy keeping our systems of slavery in place.
Any time I have seen people attempt to change the perspective in which we look at politics (ie. The Political Compass) it is always just an avenue for right wing extremists to be validated. The Political Compass helped cause the rise of authoritarianism we see today.
Maybe if your ideology is only appealing under a certain light then it isn’t an appealing ideology.
Yes I agree the political compass as a political framework pushes assumptions embedded in it’s structure that reify power itself.
The political compass and “leftrightism” are the same kind of political meta-weapons. Structure that anchor a political understanding and prepare the terrain to amplify those forms of power that understand the world through an austere and reductive model.
This disempowers exactly the kind of people most vulnerable to the concentrations of power that the framework seeks to highlight but because tge framework is so reductive it weakens its users by obscuring political reality.
We need better ways to understand political realities of the world to counter them with the sufficient and required nuance.
I don’t hate most leftists (or even non-leftists for that matter). I hate the kind that hate other leftists. The lemmy.ml tankies always complain that people who disagree with them are splitting the left, when they’re the ones calling everybody who vaguely disagrees with them a liberal. Not purely an ML thing though, there’s plenty of this kind of person in all camps.
I think lacking self awareness is a requirement to be a tankie
But after they called me a liberal for supporting Ukraine, they said they respect anarchists. They must be our friends! /s
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Sucks that the system in the USA is broken but until it’s fixed and we have more than two parties, democrats are the left.
It’s better not to equate the two parties of the USA to the parties in a parliamentary system it’s a different beast.
The Democrats are the coalition of the left of center interest groups of the current time, and Republicans the coalition of the right of center interest groups of the current time.
These groups are more the parties of the parliamentary system and run candidates in the primaries of their respective parties, and possibly as independent from time to time (particularly when they feel a bit pushed out of the main parties). Also they push these candidates at all levels (local, state, congress ect)
I would love some sort of rank choice/instant runoff ballots to make more choices easier in the voting lineup, however those who are pushing for third parties without trying to run local politicians or promoting policies ect will likely not succeed in that system either.
So it’s accurate but they’re both wrong because
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He is the left.
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He shouldn’t even be trying to converse with literal USSR advocates and literal anarchists as if they were part of his base.
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