Interesting, I thought Hungary had more. You get paid until the end of the third year, but in the last it’s minimal, people usually return after 2. Maybe the source is different
In Lithuania, it’s 72 days before scheduled birth and 56 days after, fully paid on day of entering maternal leave.
After that, one of the parents can go into long-term maternal leave of 18 or 24 months, at around 70% of pay.
In addition to that, the spouse who isn’t taking that vacation can have 2 months off until the child turns 3.
Japan has it (and, more recently, paternity leave), but using it can be harder. Old companies try to pull all kinds of BS to deny it or change the woman’s job or such. It’s getting better and enforcement is cracking down but, as with all things here, it moves slowly.
WTF Papua New Guinea?! Get with the 21st Century.
Right, north Korea has paid maternity leave; I TOTALLY believe that. (I don’t actually fucking believe that)
Commie russia had paid mothers leave. It was a total cesspit and awful place to live but even they had paid mothers leave.
That much I can believe but not north Korea.
being successful in the us means having a job that gives you benefits equivalent to the minimum required by law in the average european country.
But they want to increase birth rates?
What a pack of fucking idiots.
That was exactly my thought. Guess they’re to busy stoking fear about illegal immigrants rather than fix real problems.
Illegal immigrants from countries with more guaranteed paid maternity leave than the US has!
(Yes this is an extremely 1-dimensional lens to look at these extremely complex socioeconomic and geopolitical issues through. What’s not complex is that child birth is a biological process not compatible with the factory oriented 8 hours a day/5 days a week schedule that we’re now stuck on)
Who TF is the troll researcher who made a color for 4 weeks or less that doesn’t even appear on the map 😂
Took me a bit but there’s a tiny little dot on south of Africa, Eswatini.
It’s too small to tell which nuance of orange it is, so I’ll give it the benefit of the doubt for now…
I’m not 100% sure but I think PNG might be light orange too?
PNG PNG files are harder to read when served as WebP.
No, just Eswatii. It is sad we can not see the Caribbean islands and what their policy are.
And where the average is well into the top group on the legend.
I swear I didn’t, I just re-posted it this time 🧐
In the US, federal law allows women 3 months off after childbirth, after which infants are shipped to daycare.
This is unpaid leave that allows you to keep your benefits. Some states augment that with pay and some “benevolent” corporations will offer more pay or time.
State supported paternity leave does not exist.
Research shows that isolating men from children leads to poor modulation of testosterone resulting in more aggression and less empathy.
Research also shows that lack of mother child bonding in early development creates men like JD Vance.
Policy shapes biology which shapes culture which shapes policy. A vicious cycle that we can only break once we recognize it.
California has PFL (paid family leave) which also applies to fathers. I don’t know if there are more states with similar programs, but CA at least covers a lot of people.
Colorado has 12 weeks paid to both. But, once again someone doesn’t understand state sovereignty in the US and just clumps a together as one unit. 🤦🏼♂️
Oregon has bonding time for fathers as well and paid family leave, actually the most generous pay rates and broadest application in the US. 100% of pay up to ~$60k indexed to inflationary measure and benefits tapers down for higher earners.
I don’t think they don’t understand state sovereignty, as this is common in a lot of countries. What must baffle everyone is the sanctity of the free enterprise surpassing that of the child birth, i.e. the way the state bends to the capital. To put it in other words, states could get a Trump-like government that could take everything away in less than a month just because they think they know better.
You don’t leave this kind of policy to the states to maneuver against their citizens. California will be progressive in that sense, but what may we find in states like Mississippi, Georgia or Florida? Why there’s not a national policy that guarantees a month of paid leave no matter where you live in the USA and then maybe some more?
Because limiting Federal power has been the theme of the US since the beginning. The founders were so afraid of it going the way of monarchy that they didn’t see the consequences this could have back then. Not arguing for or against that, just stating the “why” since you asked.
Local policies counteracting federal policies are also a main ingredient for civil conflicts. It’s been a while since the US government and population should have started questioning the mindset of the founding fathers. The social discontent will find a way out.
Policy shapes biology which shapes culture which shapes policy. A vicious cycle that we can only break once we recognize it.
It’s even more difficult when you have people who are purposely exploiting that cycle for nefarious reasons.
And millions of Americans think the reason we don’t have all the things we don’t have that everybody else has, is cuz we have Freedom! and everybody else is oppressed. How did so many people get so brainwashed?
I am so proud the oppression in Canada is this bad, but it can get better.
You should come see when it’s better. Maybe you can stay forever!
It sounds to me that lemmy is full of Canadians, right? 😎 What is the percentage, 50% from Canada (or Canada’ fans at least), 30% from the US and 20% from Europe?
that can’t be right ? anyone from the US care to confirm this ? even for them it sounds absurd
In NY any private company with more than 100 employees is required to provide 12 weeks of protected time off to mothers,fathers and adoptive parents. The state collects an extra paid leave tax from our payroll that pays around 70% of your salary while youre out. You have 1 calendar year from birth/adoption to use the leave
There is no federal law guaranteeing maternity leave in the USA. We have a law that you have to provide … I want to say 12? … Weeks unpaid leave for new mothers but that’s pretty much it. They may be able to claim short term disability for some time they’re out of work which is half your income not all of it.
Some individual states may have protections in their laws but it’s certainly not the norm. It really comes down to the company you work for. I work for a nice company. They gave me 10 weeks paid leave for parental leave, which is even more rare here for any kind of paternity leave (I’m a dude).
It’s pretty sad honestly.
It’s by federal/national level. Most states have some form of it. You can surely guess which ones don’t.
How many states actually provide paid leave?
Looks like 10. California, Washington, Colorado, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Maryland, New York, Delaware, Jersey, Illinois.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/paid-maternity-leave-by-state
Certainly not “most states”, so you’re right to be skeptical.
surely the ones where there’s the most freedom. Careful about implying causation, though. could be a fluke
We have a loophole for maternity leave in America
If you’re rich you can have the rest of your life off
Rules only apply to the poors
fortunately the new US president is respectful of the working class, he’s going to change all these unfair rules!
🫣
Same loophole exists elsewhere too
True, but the US has the type of inequality where that is genuinely feasible for like the 10%.
do other places not have even 10% or do they have more than 10%?
This map isn’t worth a discussion. I seriously doubt that countries such as Sudan, Bangladesh, and Cambodia have a paid paternity leave. If so, it isn’t worth the paper it’s written upon. In those countries the government shit on worker rights.
This seems to be correct. Sudan, surprisingly does offer paid leave however other countries in Africa, like Zambia, do not offer paid but do offer unpaid (like the US on a Federal level). Map is, indeed, worthless.
https://africa-hr.com/blog/guide-to-parental-leave-in-africa/
Still I doubt those „rights“ are exercised.
It feels like you are coping here dear
It also doesn’t separate states in the US, where they could actually have paid paternity leave. Such as California. Shit that it’s not at a federal level, sure, but it also isn’t like you don’t get it anywhere in the country.
What’s the Cali rule
Up to 12 weeks unpaid, job-protected leave for mothers and fathers. You can get some kind of partial payback for lost wages, but I’m not sure how that works.
If it is unpaid that’s just federal law.
I saw in another comment it was actually paid. I guess I will need do my own DD lol
Brb
https://edd.ca.gov/siteassets/files/pdf_pub_ctr/de8714cf.pdf
It does have a paid program.
Lol what is this map? We need some fact checking…
Something’s off with it? My country checks out, at least, afaik.
This site seems to back it up too. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/maternity-leave-by-country
Why did they give Norway the Danish flag? And what is up with the flag of Greece?
Looks like they ran out of pixels.
Norway looks fine when I open the site, but Greece is still squished.
Yet one more reason why people in the US are not having kids.
What’s your excuse, Russia?
People in the US are having more kids than people in countries with much more parental benefits. Women rights and access to contraceptives measures and abortion have much more impact.
US birthrate: 1.66 in 2022
Canada birthrate (so people can’t call it a cultural difference): 1.33 in 2022
Economic decline and young men dying in a war
Not saying it is for similar reasons, but Russia is, as far as I know, quite comparable to European countries in this regard. They’re losing much more young men, so the demographic will be very different in the future but I don’t think birth rate is actually that far off and not nearly as dramatic as south-korea’s is for example.
How about loosing 27 million people 80 years ago fighting the Nazis? If that didn’t happen we could be counting the offspring of another 10-15 millions of Russians. Then the famine, loosing their country, and building a new state. The 1990s, early 2000s must have been the complete opposite in Russia than in the USA. Also, in the 1980s the USSR was already collapsing.
USSR was quite good killing off non Russians before nazis…
How does this has anything to do with the Russian population growth in the past decades?
